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In-Reply-To: References: <38429463-5884-4D4B-BDB4-C70A0FA7A3F8@yasuaki.com> <20210202165745.GA4052@LionPure> <87eehywey5.fsf@guixSD.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 21:27:29 +0100 Message-ID: <875z3aw6z2.fsf@guixSD.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::434; envelope-from=anothersms@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x434.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.06 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Gg93QlWu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: EF6EC94030E X-Spam-Score: -2.06 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 3iLzbMp6WJdf Hi, Leo Famulari writes: >> >> I was really wondering what was happening here. I mean, we are talking >> about a M$ product, right? I really can't see how this statement can >> hold true. If it means "when I'm _forced_ to work on windows, >> powershell is the lest worse thing", then fine. But I don't get how >> having it available in guix would help then. > > I understand that there may be an atmosphere of suspicion regarding > Microsoft within a GNU project, but we should really try to give a > more charitable interpretation to messages on the Guix mailing lists, > especially if we aren't sure what the sender meant. Sure, that's why at the end of the message I replied with what, to my understanding, are inclusion criteria for guix (and why I said that, except for analytics, it is probably ok for it to be included). > Remember, Yasu will read your replies, too. I hope so, that's the base of communication. If my message seemed harsh, I'm really sorry about it. I was not attacking neither Yasu nor the software (if powershell is cool, freedom respecting and libre, then let's add it). But still, a sane level of suspicion against Microsoft itself is due. I just felt it was not ok to talk about "IT worker rights", referring to a product by a company that is and always has been so hostile with us, a company that does everything to take away our rights (that's why I asked clarifications on this point). I'll be more careful with my wordings, @Yasu: I'm sorry if you felt attacked or something, my fault