From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id aOn+E0CnjWBC5QAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 01 May 2021 21:08:48 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 4AjQD0CnjWDRawAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 01 May 2021 19:08:48 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E71671710E for ; Sat, 1 May 2021 21:08:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56202 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcuys-0006Oi-18 for larch@yhetil.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 15:08:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49258) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcuyE-0006MB-N7 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 15:08:07 -0400 Received: from mira.cbaines.net ([2a01:7e00:e000:2f8:fd4d:b5c7:13fb:3d27]:36687) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lcuyA-00042j-3n for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 May 2021 15:08:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2a02:8010:68c1:0:8ac0:b4c7:f5c8:7caa]) by mira.cbaines.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C20E127BC7C; Sat, 1 May 2021 20:07:58 +0100 (BST) Received: from capella (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 91d8bae8; Sat, 1 May 2021 19:07:58 +0000 (UTC) References: <20210428145941.4bd0dd6f@lubrito> <87y2d2e0j4.fsf@cbaines.net> <20210428162030.2cab4106@lubrito> <87v986dvrn.fsf@cbaines.net> <87bl9ueunr.fsf@cbaines.net> <20210501104811.44bd2e4d@lubrito> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.15; emacs 27.1 From: Christopher Baines To: Luciana Lima Brito Subject: Re: Outreachy: Timeline tasks In-reply-to: <20210501104811.44bd2e4d@lubrito> Date: Sat, 01 May 2021 20:07:56 +0100 Message-ID: <875z02e0hf.fsf@cbaines.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:7e00:e000:2f8:fd4d:b5c7:13fb:3d27; envelope-from=mail@cbaines.net; helo=mira.cbaines.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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Does that make sense? > > Yes, I understand. But just to make sure, you say that the actions we > see in the logs are actually subsections of a bigger process? The > problem here would be to clearly mark in the code actions of a same > process. I'll take this into account on my planning. Take the lint warnings for example, currently the time to fetch all lint warnings is timed, but the usage of each individual linter is timed. Both bits of information are helpful. > For that I propose to build 2 charts, one of the > macro view, what we call "overview first", showing the > sections(processes) and their whole time taken. This way we could just > see what we were aiming for, which is to identify slowness. > The second chart would be what we call "details on demand", in which we > could have the subsections(actions) being shown. To differ to which > section(process) they are bound, we could use two meaningless > alternating colours (just to group the subsections of a section), and > they would follow the same order as the first chart. > > The use of alternating colours could be applied to both charts in order > to make clear the equivalence. Both charts should appear at the same > time, one above the other, to ease comparison. That sounds better, although I think a timeline, similar to what the systemd-analyze example uses [1] might be a more natural representation of the data, colour could then be used to represent relatively how long each part takes. 1: https://lizards.opensuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/plot001.gif >> Great, this is a good amount of detail. > > I'll add this to the plan and to the final application, ok? 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