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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1622112537; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=mohpJ7zLBHkaIf5n5sBhLnDp1VcqAg5cPBj3bUlvO1I=; b=nRC4qvtnGncE/dPY9QsCOkGGQfxnWms+Z6m0QES5vBHQgQE+LNVvfwm+XBWwm0PS2hgtyS 0WPDxnPhjz74mNwGJ96hAODDU9SBF2xt5tsf+Uscd8WcKH/cmyyCA9/KC1HcmkWWBk2lBC WMPFk1Aq1MQxsZuSjxQV8OfYfjNi3JKSYcAI+oAvWwBeAkOHyAj756I5U0rWrY+3UBp943 zybcHe6EHkINMXaKWq6H320RfJN2+nOS/sFG7FLJLqJ7xSd9oJEg4+o3AdxFuPlDUMgy0u aP+ZjXmejuzjIcsfNitIQ8tpSK5b5VeRWS7o5EuloDvxmyyvDIWsPoNmrJnWMA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1622112537; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=rjmUIDwHo7tFSFY4KZ0fuKvKkK5+7aUY7T2oHqCsXNBLaxA6X4/akq161DZFhvCMFa0pZ6 c2NIbTdFYQGS9nE5Pp9w8wbe0aHblGr1hoA8RCo1jOWkO+jSqNJ099smBWlcyyFYs/vwFD P27XqZcTjTI0rpZr8/77Rl5xRTAqrXQf7UrVptcmAfMdiOT9PEa5dobnrxRvOeBXHw+Aw0 qBdCtFozmaOAnl5FomriqmpUwniE3g2YzDP68g4SaYKO+PsDfC4qyPp3NZa49WvkoTtx/B H4+aVlegx5tlWBle5UDEOZIPtRFdFmBMjKp5Gyw+WsUoLVr5HWUFHKmPjNJPxA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=PhxyeCer; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.63 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=PhxyeCer; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8D00622606 X-Spam-Score: -1.63 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: q8ZdHn4gEi4v Bone Baboon writes: > This is an article from Hyperbola about the Rust trademark. It claims > that Rust has a freedom issue. > > > I searched for this in the Guix bug and devel mailing list archive but > did not see it. > > I would like to know how others interpret this claim of Rust having a > freedom issue. > > # Linux-libre > > If Rust does have a freedom issue then there is potential that it could > have an impact on Linux-libre. Recently there was a RFC for adding > support for Rust to the Linux kernel > . Linus Torvalds's response is > here . > > # Responses on Freenode > > I asked about Hyperbola's claim of a Rust freedom issue on > ##rust@ire.freenode.net and these were some of the responses I > received. However it appears that the core of Hyperbola's claim > remains unaddressed by these responses. > > " the trademarks are now owned by the Rust Foundation > rather than Mozilla, but the Rust Media Guide has not been updated to > reflect this" > > " bone-baboon: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53287 > is closed by https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/59748" > > " bone-baboon: whether you consider is a freedom issue or not > is a matter of viewpoint - debian doesn't seem to care at this point, > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;package=cargo > shows no bugs open related to trademarks" I asked about this on #hyperbola@Freenode. I was told that it is still an issue and this link was shared: .