From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id UBokF9/QcWENdAEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:43:11 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 8LHSEt/QcWGiLAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 20:43:11 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3FD610D0F for ; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:43:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:47984 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdeu4-00063O-8V for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:43:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35504) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdeCt-0002I7-Ul for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 15:58:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34504) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdeCs-0005w8-76; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 15:58:30 -0400 Received: from 91-160-117-201.subs.proxad.net ([91.160.117.201]:61425 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mdeCr-0007jI-Tq; Thu, 21 Oct 2021 15:58:30 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Arun Isaac Subject: Re: Incentives for review References: <874k9if7am.fsf@inria.fr> <86ee8hfm1k.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfwx896z.fsf@inria.fr> <86k0i9drh5.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtn56mzg.fsf_-_@inria.fr> <87cznyfmcb.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfwu8ien.fsf@elephly.net> <87v91qb5n1.fsf@systemreboot.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 30 =?utf-8?Q?Vend=C3=A9miaire?= an 230 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 21:58:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87v91qb5n1.fsf@systemreboot.net> (Arun Isaac's message of "Thu, 21 Oct 2021 23:51:38 +0530") Message-ID: <875ytqxi8s.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634848991; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Z50pDhy62yrpOLReAayO2jdzP85+V8+BZLx2LD1rWvg=; b=MpQUYxZc7Duky7o9VSAth5Oq8gTbbyoV67OxZDIk47+1ktoLyrvcaLpRPeyyGahrmOuEgN zzwBYawpVezzpojNulwjgwyca/1wuk9lSlO1ImVxFA3/ioHL086jlzX+pQJ6x+I6H5b27y Ha8xvMM389ehxn/fHgA8elV2Uugsmh8d7w+XORNZYmMRT2enwY2W3l60LaR+PXDgVL1d31 M+7Q1xzlcZOhMZVtENwg8TkxUgizlbVmJc0AgmLswU5Gmaz4w02C7pPh9+Cq3qWrtgusVj IGlYRfuGeAa10yqj1sQ+2wD1PwmlXuIJia+X0AqBz6NndbQNIjsajEfstfKxAA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634848991; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=eKc0B6l1rZS5pMiYWxYoZ2UIHH6Cn8fY9ex2X1DS7aZAe243HmhJLL7daGZ3lzJVFUpc+Q ROuk1vembzlmveSO9ijzKq+BRUVfDTauZ/xHpt3g8VtkmoDDY3aBi5ja5vQ1Rt0B7jioQx OSdBJRB5jKcKbjiZDmP5gnA84FI/ie0fzL7O4Yf9v7vniJeOOu7WpW8gouXrwTPOfq22xS Bijf3asz5DY5sHqqMW2hl4dnt/4ONGYX/C/CnJ40cv8zWzE0tXDfPSJHdC+3+gE8o8QRXQ e7Pz053Z407vbnG1mmIi14ToKQVGYPPZbm5JhtyS5s/VnOe/QQRAWCj18+SDrA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.93 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D3FD610D0F X-Spam-Score: -2.93 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: WPFDqMJSf1CV Hi! Arun Isaac skribis: >> Thiago=E2=80=99s idea to allow people to subscribe to certain *kinds* of >> issues when they are reported is also good. > > I agree this is a great idea. Recently, I unsubscribed from > guix-patches. It's just too high volume. These days, I prefer to just > search for issues using emacs-debbugs and mumi. > > Here's another idea for mumi: mumi should have a JSON API. Debbugs' SOAP > API is quite terrible, and doesn't even expose such things as the number > of emails in an issue. Mumi can offer its own API which does these > things properly. That way, we can write new clients (say, a CLI client) > for mumi, that can filter more intelligently. If we had a good CLI > client, our contributors wouldn't have to set up an email client or > emacs just to participate. > > The way I see it, we are outgrowing general purpose bug trackers like > debbugs. We need a special purpose bug tracker specifically for Guix > with its special requirements. We are a big enough community for this to > be important. > > I might be able to find some time to implement a simple JSON API for > mumi. Would there be interest in such a contribution? Definitely, but I think the JSON API is a means, not an end, so what matters is what we=E2=80=99ll build with it. Example that comes to mind: debbugs.el could use it for features Debbugs lacks; we could have a client Scheme module and a command-line tool to perform certain query, with the goal of being able to do things like: guix review apply 1234 guix review search bioinformatics =E2=80=A6 That could be a game-changer. Of course we should start small and focus on specific features such as searching, listing, and retrieving. > Regarding, hacking on mumi, I understand that issues.guix.gnu.org is on > an IP whitelist with the GNU debbugs server. How do I hack on mumi if > simply running it on my local machine, and pulling data from GNU debbugs > would alarm the debbugs admins? Ricardo may know the answer. :-) Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.