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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1655906058; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=iNxzbOZahmECJortE0yamT6k+RgGSqtFr5gq/A7gMv8=; b=shy/K/C4T3JfHMkbAWqWQy09egEfzl1Dt0shS2ZP8mYtLywJT0cXdBZ0e/Av+M6XXu/rdG +CUEPzyfIzJb1zGW/ELvBNdjv9H5mEtTAr8M6/fAGqdcti20vhOOcpqzgBArSREBjCIDHQ yCs8uBtn17zQNg9UGX0T2QpcldjthfHrjku4KxFzFspDzLR+YTFQ135fJibAV/trsYtmuJ bdETxN6REODIH5lfQY2PNt/Mu75D9ujEDuvH4W9pGtEJEuBKJJibSj6zuI40C/tVFaLDjN 4RO8syd4puubSNMsjXMNIEvysyVe3lsPdVHS7vWTuklld/rKhWb2udHB4A/Pkw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1655906058; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=k0mJ3manm/X+lGNBQrli/6R6sgQyTV3Ke3Z68zjKZ8kCzq493wd7yfVDAcJ8Ogy/rU4RvT z2cLEHFlaV0szEsxTLDrkzzxgir15nZ/njty7gv0Ryv1fsZwi7Fr1IEpjHYdR1yC42NXxN So6KMegd7QX19CsaEeqO8onWIA2hbu51ndgCA/s57n2OG6mQATYf+F6t9tQ4i42/AJj5uZ iI2CuDVWGG1u7j7HcNLwIdyM+g8j2kVgTSVzY9wbRuUB6AexavhH6aZvHREN1kzC1v5S6p LUJ2z2n/5I/o3eaVGWBnTe3ZzVCIexiQ3OR0hiQ3yOPJhqtiPesYvR6fI9ybdA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=Z+pxABEO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.46 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=Z+pxABEO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DB94A35009 X-Spam-Score: -9.46 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: S0AhoIh9J9BK Vagrant Cascadian skribis: > On 2022-06-21, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: [...] >> I'd much prefer challenging that stance than "endorsing" it in Guix :-). >> I think it'd be OK to reluctantly add it in as a stop-gap fix in Guix, >> but *only* after opening an issue to discuss it upstream and linking to >> that issue in Guix. > > I get it. I really do. It kind of grates at me every time I think about > this. :-) Another option would be to patch TeX Live, assuming the FORCE_SOURCE_DATE bit is well isolated in a single file. Would that seem reasonable/feasible/desirable to you, Vagrant? Ludo=E2=80=99.