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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666347256; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=xOmcuegrAbI9wy0XtchBaxgeRmg05yC6gRyaC40OFSU=; b=Wr65a+Kbl8upE01/qHL/HLKA5NrHDN3hn1B3BydKe4ZRLb0IY/fiESBjU+KNFnaNmAnSAe HfQ9Z0sg+kHjuvyWkQbS3PStPBa52j8TtXKoi094wqqjPDND8XO7dtK32axlMolhkCW9Tq w+Xd2QDHOaawpxAHVyXqTVSfqWGCajbCRYBkc4DR2I1sm83ehmagolc3VXIOP5KAJ+MZ30 YR6nP+g3xc7oBYy17yAOOxbU/JvZIJSZFoRbVIpqG5uJBhKDsUjUXMx31gOTYJjb02NaRw Zoawi+S/GOALicNBMtD8jm5aE7BwKTwNVbkwbeLgCAPsJMpAQVo5MdHlw/h47Q== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666347256; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=XECch+PHsj1LJX1dcgd7bEU3PaJY2vcdw4Rr2FrDyvMXYyppcX+qOB05LqDS8oxw8ZbheA DZuS0PVYwHQoOs1fFuilxZ552R+G8UHw+FjK2QmrtplzQ2mInK5qSIb3JO5Jdf4WIW4lFD UqEsJ9q2j+OjuLVRyoJE9X/AH6ozI+zArPePEGGUqYDoDb3vihKpRFi4m3/73Jr3YJdw+s UUmI1To/MR1zQ57tNn8Z21GXd3c9YYoAfVERHQa48sZJm5EPwaqF08AdzRIL1CWHMKLkrJ 8sjGxcf1+vxdCjSUOKy+GVYBloL8FuhxG3yaRGLeUQYePG5yVaFmZ+mKEuQLIw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=SFUBRfV2; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.44 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=SFUBRfV2; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 080F23AC73 X-Spam-Score: -5.44 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: OkCmy5vrjnvi Ludovic Court=C3=A8s skribis: > Quite a few packages depend on (guix build syscalls), starting from > =E2=80=98ant-bootstrap=E2=80=99 (since commit cded3a759356ff66b7df668bcdb= dfa0daf96f4c5 > in 2018) up to GNOME-related packages such as =E2=80=98mutter=E2=80=99 (c= ommit > d1c2fe248a7a326189fb7dcae64a59ece96251ba a few months ago). An issue is that GNOME now depends on Java: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ guix graph gnome --path icedtea gnome@42.4 font-abattis-cantarell@0.303 python-cffsubr@0.2.9.post1 python-afdko@3.9.1 antlr4@4.10.1 antlr3@3.5.2 antlr2@2.7.7 icedtea@3.19.0 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- It is great to have =E2=80=98font-abattis-cantarell=E2=80=99 built from sou= rce (since commit 97766323bc6e2b4dcfba4d6b46749a4280bca709), but it=E2=80=99s costly. There=E2=80=99s probably not much we can do, unless the python-afdko -> ice= dtea dependency is optional. Ideas? Ludo=E2=80=99.