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In-Reply-To: <87lea7jtlw.fsf@cbaines.net> (Christopher Baines's message of "Wed, 06 Dec 2023 13:32:55 +0000") References: <87lea7jtlw.fsf@cbaines.net> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Nonidi 19 Frimaire an 232 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9vol?= =?utf-8?Q?ution=2C?= jour de la Sabine X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 11:54:59 +0100 Message-ID: <875y177iik.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.89 X-Spam-Score: -9.89 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D0B3858A8F X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-TUID: /rY+sJoy6+Aw Hello, Christopher Baines skribis: > I am still planning to shutdown data.qa.guix.gnu.org and > QA which depends on it within the next couple of weeks. I do hope it can > return some point though, and hopefully sooner rather than later. > > On this like most decisions I'm indecisive, I could try and keep the > current server going, but it's not the most cost effective setup and > it's very low on disk space. I could replace the server with some > slightly better setup, but this would still mean I'm managing a key part > of the infrastructure, which is something I'm trying to move away > from. There was some discussion of the project taking over the hosting, > and maybe that will happen at some point, but it hasn't happened yet. So > while not having qa.guix.gnu.org for a time isn't ideal, I'm still going > with this approach. I think this underlines a collective failure to get our act together. I believe there=E2=80=99s consensus that qa.guix is useful and has been a b= oost for reviewers and contributors; we=E2=80=99d probably all want it to provide quicker feedback, which is a sign of success: we=E2=80=99ve come to rely on= it. I know this has been discussed several times and it remains unclear to me why as a project we never managed to move forward=E2=80=94maybe the comf= ort of the status quo? Anyway, would it be possible for you to transfer billing of the hardware (Hetzner?) to Guix Foundation? Does Guix Foundation know what it would cost them? The =E2=80=9Cspending committee=E2=80=9D (Tobias, Ricardo, and myself), whi= ch oversees expenditure from the funds held at the FSF, can also be in the loop to provide additional financial support. As for system administration, is there documentation that people willing to help could look at? Very concrete things like: what services are running on which machines, what do I do if one of them is stuck or if I get this error message, etc. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. PS: You=E2=80=99ve done amazing work over the years. As a contributor, I f= ind it super reassuring to know that you=E2=80=99re always available and focused, committed to improving patch workflows for many years. It=E2=80=99s been a long road already and I admire this level of commit= ment and hard work.