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* [Cuirass] JavaScript work
@ 2024-02-17 20:55 Ricardo Wurmus
  2024-02-18  9:23 ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
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  0 siblings, 3 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2024-02-17 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Guix-devel; +Cc: Mathieu Othacehe, Ludovic Courtès

Hi,

I noticed that Cuirass bundles minified JavaScript.  I’ve started a new
branch that replaces the minified JavaScript with readable source code
and minifies the files as part of the build.

I also tried to remove the need for jQuery, at least in our own
JavaScript code.  (Datatables.js still uses jQuery.)

Eventually, I’d like to remove Bootstrap (both CSS and JS) all together
and switch to Pico.css for conventional default styles without the need
for bootstrap classes everywhere.  I’d like to remove JS for thing that
HTML+CSS can do just fine.

(Pico is also used in mumi.)

What do you think?

The branch is here:
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-cuirass.git/log/?h=wip-js%2bcss

-- 
Ricardo


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* Re: [Cuirass] JavaScript work
  2024-02-17 20:55 [Cuirass] JavaScript work Ricardo Wurmus
@ 2024-02-18  9:23 ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
  2024-02-25  9:58   ` Ricardo Wurmus
  2024-02-21 18:35 ` Maxim Cournoyer
  2024-02-24 16:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen @ 2024-02-18  9:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: Guix-devel, Mathieu Othacehe, Ludovic Courtès

Ricardo Wurmus writes:

> I noticed that Cuirass bundles minified JavaScript.  I’ve started a new
> branch that replaces the minified JavaScript with readable source code
> and minifies the files as part of the build.

Yay for that.  I'm wondering though what the net gain of minification is
with current bandwiths.  On the few sites that I use javascript on I just
ship the preferred readable code.

Janneke

-- 
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* Re: [Cuirass] JavaScript work
  2024-02-17 20:55 [Cuirass] JavaScript work Ricardo Wurmus
  2024-02-18  9:23 ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
@ 2024-02-21 18:35 ` Maxim Cournoyer
  2024-02-24 16:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Maxim Cournoyer @ 2024-02-21 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: Guix-devel, Mathieu Othacehe, Ludovic Courtès

Hi,

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I noticed that Cuirass bundles minified JavaScript.  I’ve started a new
> branch that replaces the minified JavaScript with readable source code
> and minifies the files as part of the build.
>
> I also tried to remove the need for jQuery, at least in our own
> JavaScript code.  (Datatables.js still uses jQuery.)
>
> Eventually, I’d like to remove Bootstrap (both CSS and JS) all together
> and switch to Pico.css for conventional default styles without the need
> for bootstrap classes everywhere.  I’d like to remove JS for thing that
> HTML+CSS can do just fine.
>
> (Pico is also used in mumi.)
>
> What do you think?

Sounds good to me.  Like Janneke, I also think we can do without JS
obfuscation (minification).

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim


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* Re: [Cuirass] JavaScript work
  2024-02-17 20:55 [Cuirass] JavaScript work Ricardo Wurmus
  2024-02-18  9:23 ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
  2024-02-21 18:35 ` Maxim Cournoyer
@ 2024-02-24 16:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2024-02-24 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: Guix-devel, Mathieu Othacehe

Hi,

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:

> I noticed that Cuirass bundles minified JavaScript.  I’ve started a new
> branch that replaces the minified JavaScript with readable source code
> and minifies the files as part of the build.
>
> I also tried to remove the need for jQuery, at least in our own
> JavaScript code.  (Datatables.js still uses jQuery.)
>
> Eventually, I’d like to remove Bootstrap (both CSS and JS) all together
> and switch to Pico.css for conventional default styles without the need
> for bootstrap classes everywhere.  I’d like to remove JS for thing that
> HTML+CSS can do just fine.
>
> (Pico is also used in mumi.)
>
> What do you think?

I’m all for it.  Thanks a lot for working on it!

Ludo’.


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* Re: [Cuirass] JavaScript work
  2024-02-18  9:23 ` Janneke Nieuwenhuizen
@ 2024-02-25  9:58   ` Ricardo Wurmus
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2024-02-25  9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Janneke Nieuwenhuizen; +Cc: Guix-devel, Mathieu Othacehe, Ludovic Courtès


Janneke Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> writes:

> I'm wondering though what the net gain of minification is
> with current bandwiths.  On the few sites that I use javascript on I just
> ship the preferred readable code.

JavaScript libraries can weigh several megabytes unminified.  With
minification applied to the concatenation of all JavaScript code we can
reduce the number of requests that need to be made and the weight of the
request.

[I remember that accessing anything JavaScript heavy (by byte-count) was
no fun in China.]

But minification may not be worth it anyway once we get rid of all
unnecessary JavaScript like jQuery, bootstrap, and DT.

-- 
Ricardo


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