From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice Subject: Re: Express Logic claims GUIX trademark Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:05:00 +0100 Message-ID: <874l88jtmb.fsf@nckx> References: <87a7i1jkxr.fsf@nckx> <32d3c61a-8137-2150-08c6-1a474124c2bd@crazy-compilers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37923) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3eJI-0005YY-M4 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 06:07:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3eHR-00050b-Lx for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 06:05:07 -0400 Received: from tobias.gr ([2001:470:7405::1]:49796) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1h3eHR-0004yu-46 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2019 06:05:05 -0400 In-reply-to: <32d3c61a-8137-2150-08c6-1a474124c2bd@crazy-compilers.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Hartmut Goebel Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Hullo, Hartmut Goebel wrote: > Am 11.03.19 um 20:00 schrieb Tobias Geerinckx-Rice: >> It took me all of 20 seconds to find the actual GUIX trademark >> registration[1], so we can stop basing this discussion on=20 >> regrettable >> typographical choices in press releases. >> >> It's 4 months old.=20 > > As Pjotr already stated: we should get in touch with the FSF to=20 > make > them file a case against this trademark. Well, I wasn't talking about my own lawyer :-p There's also the Free Software Conservancy (sfconservancy.org) but=20 I agree that, as a part of GNU, we should deal with this through=20 the FSF. That's up to the maintainers to decide. > Also this might to so easy: =E2=80=98not be=E2=80=99? > - The registration says: "First use 2014" and "Use in Commerce=20 > 2014". > Thus we need to proof we used "guix" earlier, e.g. using=20 > archive.org [1] Good, that's trivial. Cue legal bikeshedding over the meaning of=20 =E2=80=98commerce=E2=80=99, I guess. > - We should also check for trademark registrations in other=20 > areas, e.g. > Europe, India, China. AFAICT the mark is not registered in Europe. The question is=20 whether it needs to be to be =E2=80=98enforced=E2=80=99 by EL. > - It might even be useful to invest ~300 =E2=82=AC for registering GUIX=20 > as a > trademark in Europe. It's nice=E2=84=A2 that we already have a legal entity named =E2=80=98Guix = Europe=E2=80=99=20 ready to do so if necessary. Kind regards, T G-R