From: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
To: swedebugia <swedebugia@riseup.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 05/15: gnu: wesnoth: Rename package to the-battle-for-wesnoth.
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 19:34:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874l7ojhdk.fsf@nckx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BCA582AA-25D0-4375-A608-EC533D6D5D72@riseup.net>
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swedebugia, Guix,
TL;DR: we're missing a field like ‘DISPLAY-NAME’, and all this is
just hacking around the bush.
swedebugia wrote:
> Anyone else who have opinions on the matter of acronyms in names
> where they can be avoided?
I share your aversion to acronyms and senseless abbreviation — I
just had to type ‘extra-config’ and it made me wince — but that's
not the point here.
> Good useability is important and cryptic acronyms are not
> something to expose to the user if possible to avoid IMO.
You're equating your preferred naming style to usability (an
assertion I reject) and arguing that those sceptical of the former
oppose the latter. This is not true.
> Maybe this is where we need to discuss what our target audience
> is? Nerds only?
> Random Joe who is new to GNU systems but dead tired of the
> proprietary systems he was taught in school who heard og Guix
> through a good friend who helps him getting started?
Using this logic, I counter that these very long names unfairly
privilege 1337 hackers who can touch-type, and hurt the average
Jo' poking at their chiclet keyboard with a chopstick ;-)
Both arguments make about as much sense IMO (and caricature
users). I think a name like ‘the-battle-for-wesnoth’ helps
*neither* user.
XLong names take longer to type on the command line, and noisy to
read in code. Some hinder tab-completion. Any implication above
that they are ‘usable’ at all is doubtful to me.
In a GUI, they still look ugly: why no spaces? Why lowercase?
Why bother? We don't have to choose between POLA from other
command-line package managers and providing pretty metadata for
higher-level UIs. We can do both.
…but let's find consensus first ;-)
Kind regards,
T G-R
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[not found] <20190326131842.7363.84034@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <20190326131845.1B177209E3@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-03-26 14:54 ` 06/15: gnu: wesnoth-server: Rename package to the-battle-for-wesnoth-server Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-26 14:20 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-26 15:18 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-26 15:32 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-26 17:53 ` Andreas Enge
2019-03-26 18:25 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-27 11:11 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 11:36 ` Pierre Neidhardt
[not found] ` <20190326131844.C73EC209E3@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-03-27 11:07 ` 05/15: gnu: wesnoth: Rename package to the-battle-for-wesnoth Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 11:46 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-27 13:20 ` swedebugia
2019-03-27 15:00 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-27 16:42 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-28 7:59 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-28 8:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-29 13:27 ` swedebugia
2019-03-27 15:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 18:34 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice [this message]
2019-03-27 18:26 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-27 18:44 ` Daniel Jiang
2019-03-27 21:15 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-28 8:17 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-03-29 14:02 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-29 15:16 ` Andreas Enge
2019-03-29 16:42 ` Naming, hacking, and policies Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-29 19:23 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-03-31 16:33 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-30 13:54 ` sirgazil
2019-03-31 16:37 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-31 18:03 ` sirgazil
2019-03-31 20:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-31 22:59 ` sirgazil
2019-04-01 0:07 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-03-29 19:57 ` 05/15: gnu: wesnoth: Rename package to the-battle-for-wesnoth swedebugia
2019-03-27 15:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-03-27 16:25 ` Pierre Neidhardt
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