From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 2EB9Gcohb2GzywAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:51:38 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id MCwgFcohb2GdKAAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 19:51:38 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A51982F0AE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:36544 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcv95-0004nH-Or for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:51:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60230) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcv8b-0004n5-5e for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:51:05 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de ([78.46.223.134]:20694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcv8U-00081E-KJ; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:51:04 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 8c053c86; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:50:54 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=dismail.de; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=20190914; bh=lPanhIyU 4H4oQN8hSxfcmADw6VG3rwnolIv+GRLMO5E=; b=msAiP62howrKeg2oZO1BX+1m ut78TRaI0tmKqmU/fh1sVFBF1nyBFOWyJLwOPetJiQU/StWnCAJrJjhVssutgDkI K9j9pUv+xCmCtlvoAnUvqldK362dnK3X2W+qYirTZgtQrUo0no7pdMWu3PP8PGMz qXpKltmaaeSgo00bwxJyZBNesS240y2Z1Y9QmReKbi2nvTYl9JfdDx5/oSwOXFbT Hev1xnJLEQoKiO46LXB0bSgfzd3DtrtpN680f2gDOOwH2w1Rkq6KF0RqmGfk0mEx EQ+vhNytVsGsg/DhiAl7M3VIbOsA5ys9+x6fqct00bCuwKk+79e/6Je4TV+Ufg== Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2b4f1093; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:50:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id fc3d489d; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:50:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id ba0d678b (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:50:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Joshua Branson To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Incentives for review References: <874k9if7am.fsf@inria.fr> <86ee8hfm1k.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfwx896z.fsf@inria.fr> <86k0i9drh5.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtn56mzg.fsf_-_@inria.fr> <87k0i8q0uv.fsf@elephly.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ricardo Wurmus , Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?C?= =?utf-8?Q?ourt=C3=A8s?= , guix-devel@gnu.org Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 15:50:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k0i8q0uv.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Tue, 19 Oct 2021 21:14:01 +0200") Message-ID: <874k9cvlnq.fsf@dismail.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=78.46.223.134; envelope-from=jbranso@dismail.de; helo=mx1.dismail.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1634673097; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=ksCTQKpialnnUwHuHI9gg+aDljSghsfQPC2C+r37qY8=; b=m+5LIET0YC6DAuxfRORgENPEA/NQJz4tN28B1iGueAqCGoyIb2eGtXqkEm0aZ2i1OvY4hN hDnKaUAstigXqJ8EDEJu/fmVNwjwMKFUSUfm76lY2kmC7vbOnHjvkiOb4xFrImq9xnEZD2 4uYqSTZROsGrzgInyk9XNi9npWhNBfIsf0XhEwZH3ZRVUVEaajVkJrzpcIeA6nEiPNGJKf UBuKMtssC7R2tIyBavKnWXLUjJCXA0uOJCh2wVx9QXwOLzX/Oq7ZQOoKyz4C1ny5t93iHc zcXJfRCeoky3hU1robiSuooaWAGxAwC6qz0Uwbygi+Y/6QFmQUFzXf/miJa2kw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1634673097; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=l84IloQqiPUwrJSGgo9mzcFRztKWt2mI9NaURZLVtHkSyoNT7JjKYwzGoZVIMhNuSBdGPG 70b+3MjRpGoKmM5TFSVGtAyiOLnsnmtWhfyYF+q2WPd4NBJOOVAN1WzV62eNBl+IuJeUY2 xc31DJq9les7qBgjzkl3gJg678Ml5mr83vWS68Z9oBJYvFIHKlXLuQBxi2+Kce7FV1aA5c OHgIi3PWaGxjpDJgxqLYQiTFFSUmUBZGjsoNH4IKVs6uNoK69hDJXu21SiU4N0EmN/haBi k62vkc9gT6M5yr7fhs1t7wn/LQoWDVwZ5y2UoAL5jQ3CsFlZVmHWXzc+J5g3IQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=msAiP62h; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=msAiP62h; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A51982F0AE X-Spam-Score: -5.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: +ZTrI6wLtYNR Ricardo Wurmus writes: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > >> A good middle ground may be to provide incentives for review. How? >> I=E2=80=99m >> not sure exactly, but first by making it clear that review is makes >> the >> project move forward and is invaluable. You once proposed having >> =E2=80=98Reviewed-By=E2=80=99 tags to acknowledge non-committer reviews,= and I think >> that would be one step in that direction. Perhaps there are other >> things we could do? > > I was thinking in the opposite direction: not incentives to recognize > reviewers but a closer relationship to the patch submitters, > i.e. =E2=80=9Cpatch buddies=E2=80=9D or mentorship. If I made myself off= icially > responsible for reviewing commits by Simon and all commits touching R > then I=E2=80=99m more likely to actually do the review for these patches. > > Reviews done by people who are not committers could also be > acknowledged, of course, but applying the patch (sometimes=20 > manually because of conflicts) is still manual work that can feel like > a chore if the committer doesn=E2=80=99t feel a connection to the patch o= r the > person who submitted it. If you're looking for an occassional guix contributor friend to mentor...I'll gladly volunteer! :) --=20 Joshua Branson (jab in #guix) Sent from Emacs and Gnus https://gnucode.me https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels https://propernaming.org "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar =20=20