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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=2; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1655022287; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=5CYToClQwsi6KiXFV9gsYV3pYLkI9DshKqFne7A9pSE=; b=Kz5gjaTj26KXnQd6LPSnZBQu4e9IaAk88yn481RlZzbj/TCus+C8awlfYQ3E19eOrb+efr wjmwtCHWnJ26atUgcYS/et+f+iFXWVog1LC29TwCiZIMxVjKV6EyJ8Kfri+I/8hNW1V9Hl yJD2AmHbrsjRj3RsgU33mxGmjgpzZJQI/1zrEgcNunOlQ4kh+RPodeouCZRpppeBiuX8kK zcrq5J3xxKovh0q6t81lMp47XxsSIJVjOK8j0IJ8l8vqJG+2BGaZmUTa+8vBUfB6+nY0// k83W7p+Zm0j4aEESUoJXZYFG4m0bxvRfuyPsH6uQo2jyALRnGygyf3cTaeTePA== ARC-Seal: i=2; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1655022287; a=rsa-sha256; cv=pass; b=aaq72T50FemTDpShczohfQJArS93FCU905/PX7cir96Za9X990bUtEDCdg9dDu05gn+cTN LWM7LcR5iZyN1btNk1f773Sp/8F6olVGE2eEp0kMQJ1Ap58fumqn8TOCzBXppCc6/oB+No Ke3fihVgV2fZcN88EXUSlRUYfbkJ5KkUxuzn1vCZtzAT4cmG8opAQmd/pDuvt72xkq2uuS 1msXdnPtEsrdjJggDtDnq5ftIvCc8hZDNJ7MFKLMIZ1q4AQH2UB/CTw8G9OqvN/XXP/hrd 2mwS8S//b0kIlmu3/siqIiwTjuyhXpWZpi811DN2irqkCZFcJUjvWXa+bmiAww== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=2; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=Ob5oJ2Rg; arc=pass ("zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.99 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=elephly.net header.s=zoho header.b=Ob5oJ2Rg; arc=pass ("zohomail.com:s=zohoarc:i=1"); dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C239F7884 X-Spam-Score: -7.99 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 3aF7zQXJZ47+ >> - We have strict conventions for commit messages. Our commit message >> Changelog is a strange dated practice from the time before good >> version control systems. I can live with it, but not everyone likes >> it. Let's just say I've heard complaints about it offlist. > > AFAIU this is a requirement Guix inherits from GNU (being it a GNU > project) > > I don't remember the ratio for this requirement but AFAIU it made sense > to me when I read that. > > I just hope this requirement is refraining people to contribute and to > review patches. > > Maybe we could help users not using Emacs with other editor-related > snippets in [~/src/guix/]etc/snippets? (I don't know other editors > templating systems) We have an editor-agnostic tool in ./etc/committer.scm. -- Ricardo