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References: <20230827135726.y33t55w4cvq6zsvb@X-kone> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2023 23:00:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20230827135726.y33t55w4cvq6zsvb@X-kone> (Saku Laesvuori's message of "Sun, 27 Aug 2023 16:57:26 +0300") Message-ID: <874jkift8v.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f36; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf36.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B85323FA5D X-TUID: XMuVtMcY5tG9 Hi, Saku Laesvuori writes: [...] > I agree on the ChangeLogs being a weird thing to require in commit > messages. I think of commit messages as the place where you record the > reasons behind the change in the commit. The ChangeLog seems to just > record the changes which the diff of the commit already automatically > records more accurately. > > If someone has use cases for the ChangeLog commits, I'd like to hear > them. Maybe there is something that can't be achieved with git history > without ChangeLogs, but I can't think of anything. Someone mentioned > grepping the git log with them, but I think the same thing can be done > with git log and git blame regardless of the commit message format. I used to think the same about ChangeLogs style commit messages, but I have to admit that it forces some discipline on me by having me review my changes in details and write out what I did. It'll sometimes expose something that'd be better kept in a separate commit, or something I did and forgot about in the early development, that should be dropped. There's also no stopping you adding a more conventional rationale as a paragraph between the topic and the ChangeLog content (which should appear at the bottom of the commit message). -- Thanks, Maxim