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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: csantosb@inventati.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.58 X-Spam-Score: -8.58 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5161B3775F X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-TUID: vVrBEHoohSoT Hi Guix, Following a recent patch to an snapshot of an emacs package (emacs-mastodon), where latest stable (tagged) release dates back from a long time, the question of whether to send patches for non stable (tagged) versions is pertinent or not. Of course, the answer is clear: we only package stable. Guix manual (22.4.3 Version Numbers) clearly states that "We usually package only the latest version of a given free software project ... Occasionally, we package snapshots of upstream=E2=80=99s version control system (VCS) instead of formal releases. This should remain exceptional.". Fine with that. Now, regarding emacs-xyz packages, the situation is a bit ambiguous. We have (old?) (tagged) releases, as well as snapshots. What is the rule to follow when we contribute ? At what point in time do we consider we may submit patches for snapshots ? With which frequency ? Do we consider number or relevance of commits since latest version ? Do we base our decision on time elapsed ? Simply put, as for now, we have a mix of melpa-stable and melpa: when one may decide to forget stable and move forward to latest ? Of course, this is author=E2=80=99s r= ole, but I=E2=80=99m wondering how subjective all of this is, and how this mig= ht impact quality of provided packages. Best, Cayetano