From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Mark H Weaver Subject: Re: [ART] Website mockup rev1 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:27:44 -0500 Message-ID: <873861hfbj.fsf@netris.org> References: <1424215729.3494.10.camel@openmailbox.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35243) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YOWlA-0006yx-AI for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:27:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YOWl5-0001gz-Tx for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:27:40 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([50.252.239.5]:34539) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YOWl5-0001gr-QA for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:27:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1424215729.3494.10.camel@openmailbox.org> ("Luis Felipe =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=B3pez?= Acevedo"'s message of "Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:28:49 -0500") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Luis Felipe =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=B3pez?= Acevedo Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Hi Luis, Luis Felipe L=C3=B3pez Acevedo writes: > Here is a revision of the last website mockup [1]. > > White header > http://sirgazil.bitbucket.org/static/temp/img/guixsd/home-view-white-rev1= .png The design is beautiful, but at this stage in our development, I think it targets the wrong audience. It will probably be at least a few years before we can target the "Average Jane", and we shouldn't try anytime soon. For example, it would be a tremendous drain on us to draw a bunch of people to our IRC channel who may not even be able to start their own IRC client software. At this stage, forcing users to run their own IRC client is a helpful barrier to entry that we should not try to overcome with an easy web interface. Also, you have replaced "Dependendable, Hackable, and Liberating" with "Libre, gratis, secure, and malleable". I prefer the words we emphasize on our current web page. Ludovic has given several talks and had many discussions with other GNU hackers, and settled on the words he chose, and the language used to describe them, based on his experiences. For the audience we currently need to attract, I think that we should stick with his language. So, for now I think that our page should be aimed at skilled developers and sysadmins, and so instead of headlining things like clip art of a computer monitor, we should instead headline the unusual technical features that we offer, with links to the best documentation, papers and talks where they can find out more, and with information on how to get involved without trying to lower the barriers to entry more than is appropriate. Does that make sense? That said, our current web page could definitely use graphic redesign and reorganization of its content, and I think you would be a great person to help with that, if you can do so while retaining its technical focus. Thanks again for all of your help. We are fortunate to have such a talented artist helping :) Mark