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Subject: Re: Install FAQ: Only build the non-deterministic packages?
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:14:24 +0100
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Hello!

carlo von lynX <lynX@i.know.you.are.psyced.org> skribis:

> Congrats! ng0 just showed me
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/reproducibility.html

Spoiler alert!  :-)

(I haven=E2=80=99t mentioned it on the list yet because it=E2=80=99s not fu=
lly baked.)

> Great file.. and great that I only saw some twenty important
> packages that need to be built manually.. most of the stuff
> is trustworthy in binary form. EXCELLENT!
>
> Now the perfect thing would be that this list is actually
> part of the Guix OS, gpg-signed by several developers and
> parsed automatically so that the *default* behaviour of
> the guix installation process is to build the non-reproducible
> packages while fetching the reproducible ones directly in
> binary form.

The problem is that you never know whether a package is reproducible.
At best you can tell that a package is *not* reproducible, but that=E2=80=
=99s
it.

On the same topic ;-), you=E2=80=99ll probably enjoy these reports:

  https://reproducible-builds.org/events/berlin2016/

> By the way, "I hate guile" was a joke. I'm just too dumb for it.

Not sure what you=E2=80=99re referring to.  However, I can tell that what w=
e=E2=80=99re
trying to do (and what I=E2=80=99m personally interested in) is to show tha=
t we
can provide simple interfaces to OS config while not preventing users
from =E2=80=9Czooming it=E2=80=9D and digging into implementation details.

As such, usability reports are more than welcome, especially from people
who are not professional Lispers!

Ludo=E2=80=99.