From: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>, guix-blog@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Blog: Guix packaging tutorial
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:53:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8736udk40j.fsf@elephly.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87in397jsd.fsf@ambrevar.xyz>
Hi Pierre,
> I'd like to post a blog article which would serve as a packaging
> tutorial.
This is an excellent idea!
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> 0. Introduction
> The perks of Guix, what it means to have a full-fledged programming
> language at hand for package management (e.g. inheritance, en-masse
> modifications).
>
> 1. General
> Go through the various fields of the `package` record.
> GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH, `guix build` and `guix package`.
I have mixed feelings about recommending GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH to new
contributors. I think that generally it is better to guide them to
working on a git checkout directly, because moving packages from a
separate GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH module to Guix proper isn’t frictionless.
> Where to read about the build systems: Guix source code.
The manual is probably a better place to read about the build systems
(section 4.2 Build systems).
> 2. Trivial build system
> Provide a complete example.
I would skip the trivial build system because it is rather complicated
and may scare readers off.
> 3. GNU build system
> - Provide a complete, argument-free example.
> - Provide a complete example with arguments such as extra configure/make
> flags, some substitution, a snippet, etc.
Sounds good!
> 4. Conclusion
> Further reading, more build systems, tips & tricks.
> Maybe mention a few complex package declarations
Maybe also mention the recursive importers to automate a large part of
the work for packages from Pypi, CRAN, Bioconductor, etc.
> I'm mostly wondering whether the GNU build system should be introduced
> before the trivial build system: it's simpler and would let the user
> have a first package ready within minutes with fewer lines of code to
> understand; conversely, it also means that we would first take some
> black-box systems for granted ("What the hell happens under the hood?",
> might some readers wonder) which would only be explained later.
In my opinion, the power of abstraction over conventional build systems
is very impressive. Instead of having to write a shell snippet that
does “./configure --prefix=/foo && make && make install” you can lean
back and use “gnu-build-system” instead.
From there it’s easy to talk about packages that *don’t* use
conventional build systems or that otherwise deviate from conventions,
which is one reason for using modify-phases.
Thanks for your initiative!
--
Ricardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-13 11:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-13 10:50 Blog: Guix packaging tutorial Pierre Neidhardt
2018-09-13 11:16 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-09-13 11:53 ` Ricardo Wurmus [this message]
2018-09-13 12:04 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-09-13 19:11 ` Andreas Enge
2018-09-14 11:07 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-09-14 11:33 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-09-24 17:00 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-09-24 17:37 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-09-27 13:43 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-27 17:34 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-09-29 16:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-29 21:18 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-09-30 19:01 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-09-30 19:44 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-30 21:14 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-02 12:12 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-02 16:02 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-02 19:46 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-03 8:10 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-03 18:16 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-08 12:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-08 15:18 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-08 18:41 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-08 19:06 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-08 19:59 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-08 22:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-08 22:33 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-08 23:45 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-10 11:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-10 13:20 ` George Clemmer
2018-10-10 13:31 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-10 14:13 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-10 14:00 ` Guix packaging tutorial is on-line! Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-10 14:12 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-10 15:07 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-10 16:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-11 13:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-11 16:34 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-11 16:51 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-15 12:02 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-15 12:39 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-20 19:58 ` Blog: Guix packaging tutorial Divan
2018-10-21 10:30 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-21 11:21 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-22 20:40 ` Divan Santana
2018-10-22 21:11 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-09-26 10:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-26 10:28 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-09-27 11:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-10-08 22:54 Benjamin Slade
2018-10-08 23:05 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2018-10-09 0:04 ` Benjamin Slade
2018-10-10 9:02 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-11 1:38 ` Benjamin Slade
2018-10-11 9:37 ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-10-11 13:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-12 1:05 ` Benjamin Slade
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