From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id YNLkLtE/h18uWwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:13:37 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id QP+pKtE/h19cNgAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:13:37 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CA8B9404CC for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:56632 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSlHL-0000TX-SV for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:13:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56912) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSlGq-0000SO-GJ for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:13:04 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de ([78.46.223.134]:44094) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSlGn-00018s-Sh for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:13:04 -0400 Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 78b5c386; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:12:55 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=dismail.de; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=20190914; bh=dIWslsBeK9YurwLV4GOfML3gMhdNd+jLAM OP54jxc1k=; b=hOaLCzuujqG7q3iBhXw8yOxaasNWQGeHTkZMbH4zIV2F7bEHhX DU0eB2lWbJdwkMBpnWlTB9ixz4cJIRG9bCjmPZf7es9QFVoWXIMxoa8WeCy0lUbU SOzZAgIOscHb96REK0L2y8/K2nr26HtUJ2hjPsgAuP2UdQomLCp5iWZtxuFT3VhX sZn1gC6whpstptrVxud4JxOC8i8P4fXmRcj/7KfsboCsCSVDh1byWcV90tYt7D8U UM2IoVUhIF50ClDbwBkY+Muxb6SHFZ6XLKTZGIeTTziSorVfr7q8lberzcDo1X6+ ltS6HXV6y3YmFkqY0OxHM2ge3o9fVIcTWZmw== Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c53ef894; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:12:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 36f92619; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:12:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id ce169cdf (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:12:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Joshua Branson To: zimoun Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Diverse Double-Compiling, --with-c-toolchain and trusting trust References: <86blh5jb9w.fsf@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: zimoun , guix-devel@gnu.org Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:12:51 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86blh5jb9w.fsf@gmail.com> (zimoun's message of "Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:29:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87362g65i4.fsf@dismail.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=78.46.223.134; envelope-from=jbranso@dismail.de; helo=mx1.dismail.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/14 14:12:56 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=dismail.de header.s=20190914 header.b=hOaLCzuu; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=dismail.de; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: npMshknbAsv4 Hey zimoun! This reminds me of the reflections on trusting trust: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rdriley/487/papers/Thompson_1984_ReflectionsonTrustingTrust.pdf If you get something like this working, and you'd like some help assembling it into a blog post, please let me know! Thanks, -- Joshua Branson Sent from Emacs and Gnus https://gnucode.me https://video.hardlimit.com/accounts/joshua_branson/video-channels "You can have whatever you want, as long as you help enough other people get what they want." - Zig Ziglar