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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621198167; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=nY+EXKjVYyiuC0xoazMCMWqeu12knJcF9U/+ndwnbLU=; b=UaHItOEXTjk4HgF80KlzTcvETwLpX7OdjFXgzlBbqsRy3BEv3W/J9RF1RS3J614tzCTucY HGAsQmC+V9IVEUWGY/hIK55Ss1CjNul7xtFsKf4lRFEGEqoR4R0y5btLAerBd1jDbImhqK nrz38eII+V17KbAQ48oghiBdiWdxMmGauESPGG0g1cNbU5gSVVh8AlG0YGnW2EpIBeyTby uP3PCalyRm9JIXbf5uXtWVD+xOc9BOq4jb3TdpkgzmI7ZsaLxH99hs47EKtApd3+hKQXTF ZrwdgoS1C4PlyDUjuBMkb2bFCLlHXfcIeCcOzkHVDunSgUuDCaVFGdKaZoliPA== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621198167; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=EOVyJZ0KandmJ2Ejl2y6YNfDF8aBWZBfSi+Xc+iF13A1pQw1MqupbAMaowJPNTQOJ9irrE eJfVAsK0Ay8AqphWEFjWib+ozxJ71fdr5/8tfMSyPLNXgZhghvleXNdo4IuNhubxIfTYcA fWJ2Q8eQBM+GAgsGtX1nOqHHNqaHgmIkyj9rS2l9nWzcyXbzcqt+Wg4w9VaDtPCmCcOUHe OenVMctGeQSmxUMKMjNrmAqhFE5uyjcD8UvVywiyEEgodn6bkA/q30TutzBNLxbqIeLxqb W1bNWpNLkeQ2W4f4lOboU/uHGOMTNhvmpN7XYQmdGwiI9xxQW1JlJLXExxvEMw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=yoctocell.xyz header.s=mail header.b=uD+yprty; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.75 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=yoctocell.xyz header.s=mail header.b=uD+yprty; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=yoctocell.xyz; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 770C41844D X-Spam-Score: -3.75 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: 24c9Jc4qMmsE --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Sat, May 15 2021, raingloom wrote: > Just throwing this out there: > mcron is basically a very simple service manager, so, why not just move > all its timer functionality into shepherd (like systemd's timer units) > and then we can have a unified way to manage and debug services. Yes please! 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