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That may be good reason to not break this separation between >> .emacs and .exwm. > > FWIW, I don=E2=80=99t have .exwm either; instead I have just a few lines = of exwm > config straight in ~/.emacs, which shouldn=E2=80=99t prevent it from runn= ing in > the console or anything. I'm afraid you're approaching the issue from the wrong angle. Exwm is smart than you think. As of today, there are workarounds (.exwm) that attempt to "solve" non-existent issues. As for the fact the you, Ludovic, don't have a .exwm file and configure Exwm from your emacs init file: are you aware that you're running a default Exwm config? M-x find-library RET exwm-config; and take a look at exwm-config-example. I find this extremely annoying, since it defeats the purpose of having a personal Exwm config. The only way to avoid this is to create an empty .exwm file. Again, sending a patch is trivial (I've been running my own Exwm for a while now), but I need to convince you first :) --=20 Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes "Free Thought, Free World"