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Anyway, your point is: it is a feature, not an issue, > IIUC. Exactly. :-) We=E2=80=99re verrrry far from having the kind of inconsistency I observed = in Nixpkgs back when I contributed. And I think the difference mostly lies in how people work together; it=E2=80=99s a social issue. Ludo=E2=80=99.