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From: Brian Cully via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." <guix-devel@gnu.org>
To: Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>
Cc: Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@gmail.com>,
	Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@reproducible-builds.org>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2022 08:11:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735ggfz3v.fsf@ditto.jhoto.spork.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <310AD876-916E-4020-A87E-5609E8166432@lepiller.eu>


>>The upstream website says: "People like MaraDNS because it’s ...
>>remarkably secure." [1] Since many distributions have the same 
>>issue,
>>upstream could perhaps offer the patch as a build switch to 
>>enable a
>>build-time seed only when needed.
>
> Sounds like the safest option. Maybe we could change the code 
> that uses that number to naise an exception or abort?

This seems like the best option to me, as well: either add a flag 
to explicitly enable embedding a constant, or remove the code 
entirely and replace it with a build failure (or runtime failure, 
if a build failure is not possible). It seems like a mis-feature 
to me to embed a constant seed, and invites silent 
misconfiguration which will lead to security breaches.

-bjc


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-07 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-07  1:49 maradns reproducibility fixes and the merits of picking a random number Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-07  3:24 ` Felix Lechner
2022-06-07  5:20   ` Julien Lepiller
2022-06-07 12:11     ` Brian Cully via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. [this message]
2022-06-08 11:48       ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-08 14:09         ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-08 11:47     ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-08 20:33       ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-23  2:05         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28  1:31           ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28  9:30             ` Efraim Flashner
2022-06-28 15:39               ` Jack Hill
2022-06-28 16:04               ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-28 16:18                 ` Gábor Boskovits
2022-06-28 16:33                   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-28 19:06                     ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-28 19:15                       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-07-12  2:36                       ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-12  2:41                         ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-18 11:21                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-07-19 13:09                             ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-06-07 15:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-06-08 19:28 ` Arun Isaac
2022-06-08 20:25   ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-06-14 17:16     ` Philip McGrath
2022-06-08 19:43 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-06-08 20:23   ` Vagrant Cascadian

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