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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1658435783; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=tc4doKzeIKFdg18EybpFW4p2Ej2fhfhxux1argNsFaw=; b=CEOClhdZGyZBcN+1Sf5w9a27s3Or6k1goo+aq1LxjzgDhYJ/vdP3yktCAR/oHySwL7cQaV CtokFfBpyScbeWAe9Yez82brvVBLDcdFKW+16duA2alO1dikttPQlwU/7TFVJonfxbVY8l wtnAQD3Fk6SaQUPYOJsLVHwEoCJwKFVXlovyxSvxNhHHjOkbykBkPNtK+LXHbgjqzRulJF wL6Vx20XnIgcZOlnAbLvQv/0Fd4L8FOK7YDKRNQZPhXA9yrJnybjNJWk8dwqIOxSb1CKBx UHv+zZk+jinBmf8hjmu49+9mW+07ytJLz4xQmzKigwciwdmNjDOSkOHwKExykw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1658435783; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=c4aGxeACG2iuVKEKyKz44m/0Tzx1gtOcvcvWajpxrdXrlj3c0W1gpbh6/ezatojACwzH5R 4s9giuH3F44H9/hhnbB/x9lYfmBImyBMDaPr4bPO/NCGEDsc1EwM6o51uH+2KzmF0ar/mg m8hOXeYYoucgQ7RFZQVT65ORQv72Ibzv3Wv7r3F8GhKIJl5Ihq7xWGZIXSWsso7hS3KUMm oFsfbIszlNT04u/Uw/AzuG4mIttqCbsmxJUySUl3OOGfjSXOc/re9uMFlBzFbXgbnp/i2/ ZSkoRYsGZN5IHDArHmf1x7tMt39DEBKPEa58L121CI+Sm/P9FODVm/jDjPJQWQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=TFk6vTon; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.54 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=TFk6vTon; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E398A6ACE X-Spam-Score: -2.54 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: nB6rKdmn9nIz zimoun writes: > Hi, > > On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 02:20, Csepp wrote: >> I was looking for this patch on issues.guix.gnu.org and could not figure >> out why it's not there and I'd just like to point out that having like 6 >> mailing lists with at least two separate indexes is... not great :) I >> appreciate everyone's work on Mumi and Debbugs but... maybe this is an >> avoidable problem? > > Which are these 6 mailing lists? What do you mean by 2 separate > indexes? > > For the good or not, the GNU project has only one Debbugs instance. > Mumi is just reading this Debbugs instance database to display the > information nicely. Somehow, Mumi is just another frontend to the GNU > Debbugs instance. Nothing conceptually different from emacs-debbugs. > > > Cheers, > simon Mumi and Debbugs have different search interfaces and seem to use different ordering. 6 was a slight exaggeration, but development communication happens at least on: * patches * devel * bugs And then there is also help, which often overlaps with bugs. There are also a few others for CI, translation, etc. IMHO these papercuts add up. Browsing and cross-referencing issues and patches is way harder than it is with other forges. Not saying we need to switch, maybe it's easier to just add the missing functionality. Or maybe it doesn't matter to anyone else.