From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id gDzbIdjvGmT0gQAASxT56A (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:08:56 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id IM/gINjvGmTT/QAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:08:56 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5689A14D81 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:08:56 +0100 (CET) Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=fsfe.org header.s=2021100501 header.b=ZoEa4LcV; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=fsfe.org ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1679486936; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=/CPlipahgqfWOUXPBrMdsh4a6xOyComkylVirZUAdE0=; b=ARcLPjJMPScoT2Bp39iG8F+eJKTgIDjeBl+Ttgj8RYP0RCcv7Q8lHNi43PvU4a2yhiIF3t 60cdPdArKp9arDQU8NN2c1FSRTJoSJPtF5C+cEsQFeUlbSIeNEsAkY+5yr7QVTuGXPNdMy +qZbiGJUbiUcyz0AasQjR10EoTM6wLF5ypOIkqUaAPqh0afPPIMzWMW5YxnnALYRI/OaED VKYHCc4DSodkXEYzH4m378eRmr70Zkk3VTuZPppOFDjTaG4tsyD+drUw0zpHo0kRcGmBTm FgJwWsAlrkdNG+yK+IbqHDIFaXF7iMf8ST8sxcLS+dL8TeYF8yV/4OUT3Q00Vg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1679486936; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=prPejn7B7R1laff00AEHyVkvuDIpspqdnNQw+08agsJIHwRb5snwSkDvK+V7dBWhP0SXGj EOb+07Wb5bden4ApPwP0RfBdLbkopTuBmwYOCuesNHE7CXmsa/ZkPzjk//B4qG656wLXYY yjnaksahk2DBzHKf7HGjahlTHc3DdWt7SZqU3uTNxCtlJipuHgM2Dyreq6Rqyti9/mMpCS gNGXY8+X9cyjP8GfGg5/HotFdZ6z5QVZe3vSnMmlBGBJNjVYmr4+ioX2b+7zhliVKnlGDw MrCNQuAB9uuo5Ebc51yZVt95glODezrVj8zqcAJGtvh6tfpbzxS0IeOSVivVQQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=fsfe.org header.s=2021100501 header.b=ZoEa4LcV; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=fsfe.org Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pexGW-0003xY-2b; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:08:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pexGU-0003x5-DS for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:08:26 -0400 Received: from mail1.fsfe.org ([2001:aa8:ffed:f5f3::151]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pexGS-0005u1-6Z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:08:26 -0400 From: Jelle Licht DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fsfe.org; s=2021100501; t=1679486899; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=/CPlipahgqfWOUXPBrMdsh4a6xOyComkylVirZUAdE0=; b=ZoEa4LcVQWTuAChXKj34iPP9ZUQuy682xlkEbdSc6gYcSshx3DKPLLVCFShpB/n1dVZeLl Eb8UBg23LHIqAqf0ogGBQAX1tDPKzaHCgns3gMsNLaS/2WmYbg5aGof7p+tNKsEPxZ7bUx gavdlO/jlOXv3buV/WRHv1Ph2FIcB2E= To: guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Potential removal of unmaintained node-openzwave-shared Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:08:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87355xouod.fsf@fsfe.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:aa8:ffed:f5f3::151; envelope-from=jlicht@fsfe.org; helo=mail1.fsfe.org X-Spam_score_int: -70 X-Spam_score: -7.1 X-Spam_bar: ------- X-Spam_report: (-7.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com List-Post: X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 5689A14D81 X-Spam-Score: -10.11 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -10.11 List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-TUID: fw0WvT6wIFxN Hey guix, In getting `Node.js' updated to a more recent LTS version[0], I found out that node-openzwave-shared no longer builds with modern versions of node [1]; random people on the Internet seem to indicate that the hip new thing is Z-Wave JS [2]. Long story short, what is our de facto policy here? 1) Keep around a copy of Node 14 and all node-openzwave-shared deps, even after the End Of Life of 2023-04-30 2) Remove node-openzwave-shared, and move to Node 18 whenever possible without this package. 3) Patch node-openzwave-shared' so it builds with newer versions of Node, and move to Node 18. 4) Remove node-openzwave-shared, move to Node 18, package the relevant parts of Z-Wave JS. I don't have the time nor means for anything but option 2) myself, so if consensus deems any of the other options a better way forward, volunteers are invited to apply :-) - Jelle [0]: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/59188 [1]: https://github.com/OpenZWave/node-openzwave-shared/issues/398 [2]: https://github.com/zwave-js?type=source