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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.79 X-Spam-Score: -9.79 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 439ED218C3 X-TUID: hzcOL5OzBKb1 Hi Attila, On mar., 06 f=C3=A9vr. 2024 at 17:16, Attila Lendvai = wrote: >> The wishlist is: provide a machine-readable description on guix-science >> channel side in order to help in finding the good overlap between >> commits of different channels. > > i wrote about a missing abstraction here: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2023-12/msg00104.html You wrote in [1]: it's probably the same thing that causes the discrepancy between git commits and substitutes: the build servers are not building every commit of the git repo. they pick an unpredictable (?) series of commits, skipping some in between. if i guix pull, or guix time-machine to the "wrong" commit, then i'll need to build some stuff locally. sometimes these can be heavy packages. To my knowledge: + ci.guix (Cuirass) fetches every 5 minutes (IIRC) and builds the last commit. + bordeaux.guix (Build Coordinator) fetches the batch from the mailing list guix-commits: About CI, yes it is unpredictable. About Bordeaux, it is not really. :-) 1: Re: Should commits rather be buildable or small Attila Lendvai Sun, 10 Dec 2023 23:20:25 +0000 id:SXjFmdTgxwHYE-Z6t7SZOykuXMBiD454EF2uad96jGQemgJ6hXki_f1C7VxVHKHa4b7_j5Uw= Jmffh_FiQqEz_bIYIBn9tpG4s9F7W1eIDAQ=3D@lendvai.name https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2023-12 https://yhetil.org/guix/SXjFmdTgxwHYE-Z6t7SZOykuXMBiD454EF2uad96jGQemgJ6hXk= i_f1C7VxVHKHa4b7_j5UwJmffh_FiQqEz_bIYIBn9tpG4s9F7W1eIDAQ=3D@lendvai.name > the git commit log is a too fine-grained granularity here. there > should be something like a 'guix log' above the git log that could be > used, among other things, to encode inter-channel dependencies. Considering the current status and how substitutes are GC, the first step would be the retention of some substitutes. And thus the specification for a policy of such retention. It would allow to build a database that could be queried by this hypothetical =E2=80=9Cguix log=E2=80= =9D =E2=80=93 which should be more something under =E2=80=9Cguix weather=E2=80=9D IMHO. For the interested readers, thread about retention: Building and caching old Guix derivations for a faster time machine Ricardo Wurmus Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:29:28 +0100 id:87o7g29c94.fsf@elephly.net https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2023-11 https://yhetil.org/guix/87o7g29c94.fsf@elephly.net Substitute retention Ludovic Court=C3=A8s Tue, 12 Oct 2021 18:04:25 +0200 id:87y26ytek6.fsf_-_@inria.fr https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-10 https://yhetil.org/guix/87y26ytek6.fsf_-_@inria.fr Although I concur with this need, I do not see how it would be help for detecting compatibility between channels. :-) Cheers, simon