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From: Felix Lechner via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." <guix-devel@gnu.org>
To: Andreas Enge <andreas@enge.fr>, Josselin Poiret <dev@jpoiret.xyz>
Cc: "Maxim Cournoyer" <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>,
	"Efraim Flashner" <efraim@flashner.co.il>,
	"Steve George" <steve@futurile.net>,
	Kaelyn <kaelyn.alexi@protonmail.com>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Core updates status
Date: Wed, 08 May 2024 10:46:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8734qsyz6j.fsf@lease-up.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZjtOXwyqOZ95099i@jurong>

Hi Andreas,

On Wed, May 08 2024, Andreas Enge wrote:

> I am a little bit confused by the suggestion; you mean removing all
> .la files from all packages?

I don't mean to answer for Josselin but at least in Debian, which seems
to be acceptable as a reference from time to time, there has been a
long-standing practice not to ship .la files. [1]

There are several exceptions to that rule, chiefly when the files are
for dynamically loaded modules used only by a particular program. The
dynamic loader library libltdl (which ships with Libtool but is losing
popularity) requires them.

My understanding is that pkg-config [5] and pkgconf [6] do more or less
the same thing.

In one of Debian's QA tools called Lintian, we tolerated .la files but
issued fault indicators for shipping prerequisite information [2] or for
inconsistent libdirs. [3]

The exact heuristics are available here. [4]

Kind regards
Felix

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/LAFileRemoval
[2] https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/blob/master/tags/n/non-empty-dependency_libs-in-la-file.tag
[3] https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/blob/master/tags/i/incorrect-libdir-in-la-file.tag
[4] https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/blob/master/lib/Lintian/Check/BuildSystems/Libtool/LaFile.pm
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pkg-config
[6] https://github.com/pkgconf/pkgconf


  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-08 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-24  6:08 Core updates status Steve George
2024-04-24  9:56 ` Christina O'Donnell
2024-04-24 13:17   ` Steve George
2024-04-24 14:21     ` Christina O'Donnell
2024-04-25 14:06     ` Christina O'Donnell
2024-04-25 14:06       ` bug#40316: " Christina O'Donnell
2024-04-25 17:01       ` nss not reproducible Christina O'Donnell
2024-04-25 18:45 ` Core updates status Kaelyn
2024-04-26 12:56   ` Steve George
2024-04-26 15:58     ` Efraim Flashner
2024-05-05 20:45       ` Josselin Poiret
2024-05-06  2:38         ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-05-06  8:47           ` Josselin Poiret
2024-05-06 10:21             ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-05-08  9:03               ` Josselin Poiret
2024-05-08 21:42                 ` [PATCH] gnu: glibc: Update patches following upstream's master branch Josselin Poiret
2024-05-14  9:22                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-05-09 15:41                 ` Core updates status Maxim Cournoyer
2024-05-13  8:49                 ` Efraim Flashner
2024-05-08 10:05             ` Andreas Enge
2024-05-08 17:46               ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution. [this message]
2024-05-09 15:38               ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-05-10  8:08                 ` Andreas Enge
2024-05-13  8:51                 ` Efraim Flashner

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