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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Spam-Score: -1.32 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0D4E25FEB X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: bVkiMDCYRTR/ Steve George writes: > If you're interested in this topic there's quite a few different discussions in the email archive, but it's never really achieved a conclusion. There are many contributors who enjoy the current process, so I don't think anyone's proposing removing that. It's about whether the project could 'add' a forge-pr process - so it's an 'Email *and* '. This is just background info as it's not the main aim of this thread. Okay, thanks. I'm open minded to that, so long as I don't in the end get forced into using a Web interface. I could talk for a good while regarding what I hate about the modern Web and Web browsers. I of course don't have cred like the real Emacs developers around here. But I find that working with debbugs, usings gnus alongside debbugs-guix.el and debbugs-gnu.el, is satisfactory and convenient. Applying a patch was very easy the last time I did it from a gnus ephemeral buffer. E-mail seems, despite its flaws, to end up being a better option than everything that tries to replace it. But I'm open to other APIs if there ends up being a nice *.el interface available. -- Christopher Howard