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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Tiny Guix (and containers)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:35:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871slpctrv.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mv4emlwf.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2017 09:02:56 +0200")

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:

>>   34M     nnykzgwfy8mwh2gmxm715sjxykg8qjwn-binutils-2.28
>
> “share/locale” is 9.4M.  This is a cross-cutting concern.  We don’t have
> a way to globally filter locales to only requested locales.  Even if we
> split them each into a separate output — how would you specify that you
> want the “de_DE” locale in each package and not install the rest?

There’s also the problem that packages typically hardcode $localedir in
binaries, which means we would need a special mechanism to decouple
locale data from packages.

> There seems to be some duplication with these directories:
>
>     /gnu/store/nnykzgwfy8mwh2gmxm715sjxykg8qjwn-binutils-2.28/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/bin/
>     /gnu/store/nnykzgwfy8mwh2gmxm715sjxykg8qjwn-binutils-2.28/bin/
>
> But the binaries seem to be hardlinked, so they don’t take up extra
> space.

But they do take up extra space when transmitted over the wire as nars,
and in Docker/tarball packs.

In general we should replace hard links with symlinks because of that
(Mesa has the same problem.)

>> Now it takes forever to set up the image
>
> Have you tried disabling compression?  This could be a lot faster.  I
> found that tar with gzip compression is terribly slow to copy things
> from the store into a compressed tar archive.  Disabling compression
> speeds this up considerably, even though it is still rather slow.

In general one wants compression though, no?  I’d be curious to see how
we can make it faster!

Ludo’.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-27  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-25  8:18 Tiny Guix (and containers) Pjotr Prins
2017-10-25 11:12 ` Pjotr Prins
2017-10-26  7:02 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-26 10:42   ` Pjotr Prins
2017-10-26 10:48     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-10-27  8:25     ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-10-28 20:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-31 14:17         ` Dave Love
2017-11-05 16:02           ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-11-06 15:45             ` Dave Love
2017-11-07 10:19               ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-10-27  0:35   ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2017-10-31 14:11 ` Dave Love
2017-11-03 12:08   ` Pjotr Prins
2017-11-06 15:10     ` Dave Love
2017-11-05 15:55   ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-11-06 15:11     ` Dave Love

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