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From: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, elaexuotee@wilsonb.com
Subject: Re: Using --manfistest with <profile>/manifest files
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 11:46:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871rmfwdfp.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86lfko92fj.fsf@gmail.com> (zimoun's message of "Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:08:16 +0200")

Hi,

zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> skribis:

> On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 at 17:24, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> I think there were several issues we discussed:
>>
>>   1. We can only approximate that actual profile content; storing
>>      an approximate ‘manifest.scm’ along with the profile would IMO be
>>      deceptive.
>>
>>   2. It’s easy to maintain compatibility over a data format, but it’s
>>      much harder to maintain compatibility for code.
>>
>> I think we discussed these issues the best we could in the megathread,
>> so I’m personally in favor of moving forward in a pragmatic way.
>
> By pragmatic way, you mean:
>
>  - let the format of <profile>/manifest as it is,
>  - write '--export-manifest' as an approximation
>
> right?

For example, yes.

> Well, I personally changed my workflow and now I always use manifest
> files.  And the situation that I described in the manifest about the
> "Working Scientific" doing install, pull, install, pull, remove,
> install, etc. is rooted in bad practises, so it should be avoided.
>
> Therefore, I agree that '--export-manifest' is the right approach, as an
> helping tool; too bad for some corner cases. :-)

Yeah, I think our goal is just to provide a tool to migrate from the
“imperative” way to the declarative way.  Once people have gotten
started with manifests, they no longer need that migration tool.

Thanks,
Ludo’.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-16  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-11  1:40 Using --manfistest with <profile>/manifest files elaexuotee
2020-06-13 20:36 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-14 10:17   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-06-14 15:24     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-15  7:52       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-06-16  9:44         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-15  8:08       ` zimoun
2020-06-16  9:46         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2020-06-16 11:33           ` elaexuotee
2020-06-16 13:42             ` zimoun
2020-06-17  0:45               ` elaexuotee
2020-06-17  7:58                 ` how to "guix pack" a profile? zimoun
2020-06-18  9:20                   ` elaexuotee
2020-06-18 23:49                     ` zimoun
2020-06-19  2:52                       ` elaexuotee
2020-06-19  8:30                         ` zimoun
2020-06-19 12:34                           ` elaexuotee
2020-06-19 15:38                             ` zimoun
2020-06-19 10:00                         ` zimoun
2020-06-19 12:16                           ` elaexuotee
2020-06-19 20:40                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-19 20:35                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-16  2:51   ` Using --manfistest with <profile>/manifest files George Clemmer
2020-06-16  4:27     ` elaexuotee
2020-06-17 19:09       ` George Clemmer
2020-06-16  9:38     ` zimoun
2020-06-16 14:03       ` George Clemmer
2020-06-16 15:09         ` zimoun
2020-06-16  9:50     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-06-15  7:54 ` zimoun
2020-06-15 10:08   ` elaexuotee
2020-06-16  9:09     ` zimoun

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