From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id YMGcN17+rF9PEQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:20:30 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id YCRmM17+rF/+TQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:20:30 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6AC1940631 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:37540 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kd8mL-0002xP-Et for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 04:20:29 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kd8mA-0002xE-2y for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 04:20:18 -0500 Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:50789) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kd8m7-0006Qh-Np for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 04:20:17 -0500 Received: from bababa (lfbn-idf2-1-1094-122.w90-92.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.92.160.122]) (Authenticated sender: mail@ambrevar.xyz) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6E20810000B; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:20:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Neidhardt To: Ryan Prior , Jan Wielkiewicz Subject: Re: Latest Nyxt features a GUI for Guix :) In-Reply-To: <0dfacdc4d261507fc25735e5e4bde388dff2982c@hey.com> References: <0dfacdc4d261507fc25735e5e4bde388dff2982c@hey.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 10:20:10 +0100 Message-ID: <871rgzgcdx.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.178.231; envelope-from=mail@ambrevar.xyz; helo=relay11.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/12 02:34:35 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD=0.499, PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD=1.999, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.11 X-TUID: XZ0KuiIvHi7O --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ryan Prior writes: > On November 11, 2020, Jan Wielkiewicz > wrote: >> [web browsers are] a really poorly designed copy of >> operating systems and its utilities. >> >> [...] >> >> I just don't understand why in the web browser. >> I'll try it. > > The web browser is the primary operating environment for a lot of > people. Just as Emacs users built web browsers, terminal emulators, and > mail clients on the Emacs platform, the web platform also has all those > things (including various elaborate in-browser code editors.) So I > understand this as having the exact same genesis as the Guix interface > in Emacs: people would like to manage their operating system using the > interface they spend most of their time in, and for Nyxt power users > that would be their browser. I'm not at all interested in managing my > Guix packages using Nyxt, which is highly correlated to my not being a > Nyxt power user. Exactly :) To add to what Ryan said, Nyxt has a interesting design feature: it does not need to depend on a web browser! Nyxt is rather a=20 "Common Lisp interactive framework" and it would be perfectly possible to implement a textual interface =C3=A0-la Emacs. Of course, web page rendering would be much more limited though. I'd like to work on a pure GTK (or ) version of Nyxt at some point. =2D-=20 Pierre Neidhardt https://ambrevar.xyz/ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFGBAEBCAAwFiEEUPM+LlsMPZAEJKvom9z0l6S7zH8FAl+s/koSHG1haWxAYW1i cmV2YXIueHl6AAoJEJvc9Jeku8x/pyQH/0XqKU7rENdzGGdUtWugf7Ddv5BWaYcI fdtmPGu7OhqWRMIBtgPT5rbiZ08n4kB5ePTyKNk3DUrqAU6jvlBruWd2B2oIhZvA ncQXUGlebLN4IveEHJHYrCzEMZn0eyfbmiidgqq6e8w/OIPxgYWzoEsuQS8m3NAq l9KCW9h26QLtpIcjaalS/2/XNumgH14el1ZcD9jzvcd2K/fMCPhANzjBPPXrheQh Vzfii/RRDTcEQqLVwM8av48716nIR+qin35YQ9cPlZqCsqFnJWE93NB6wzFPLg0t ZK8y+3Iopq1G6HZjfl4OkfnG1yKWolkKn5fTWUISKqcCGdIfSc3U0uw= =PKMh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--