From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id eKoEAT7hr2DdlAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 20:13:18 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id iHxUOD3hr2CGNQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 18:13:17 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8046FB6A7 for ; Thu, 27 May 2021 20:13:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:52772 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lmKVQ-0007Ev-1U for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 14:13:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36424) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lmKSt-0005pb-4A for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 14:10:39 -0400 Received: from cascadia.aikidev.net ([173.255.214.101]:43008) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lmKSq-0003ff-DG for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 May 2021 14:10:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (97-120-1-76.ptld.qwest.net [97.120.1.76]) (Authenticated sender: vagrant@cascadia.debian.net) by cascadia.aikidev.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CC38C1AE1B; Thu, 27 May 2021 11:10:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Vagrant Cascadian To: Leo Famulari , guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: Which kernel series to use in the installer and for installed systems? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1622139197; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=y3gqTQCdil7IYH5f7C7TDCcS16NrhHmCicdjbytYpHU=; b=svN2fPksqR6CZNhw0bcZlM4w6u4RxreNyUv7U6bSmX9ys3uOfw4YDgr/8HtA+2BtCQlgyy mL5/DCyPhv96DNYHopJinmOSI8GymK2igAchHCF0m/9+/W2nu9UzoY3TPJi3360G4gkySE +fi0jTzamjHZqBdqLlKb6A+sDF7rfBktqC4J5EDuRNvIM6dEZMJEhnIGFIY5sMeS891tzo CS31XzyivGNqCvkhzv2WNILolzCsyH5tVbx53QE/qWbyVYiaymdys7TngieEZbnkXbkfRq nxWWMtv2CIP5raPvYt7m8p/N/ECIjh7wGZVEMxRUFj+lc29hBhTRP5UHzqQ0Rg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1622139197; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=uQUjeFrtUnoPFxneCarNxYSBTExO0wuOLlB1YQA+KOu6d3sU3XbErHINWxRkjLLWSqTJiM S+eKzjyM1A2Dw5XR48ymbcEBsoenzzNODBaOdZf49kMEBiFszWX4jLydpkSY9nuAbGIhp0 K+1FMs2mGVaFuGyOGxX+Ftjf7DCC6U5Eo7gYesWc9Kqkzf6aWG83eakisv8KeaHAjLg4Q6 8xsz5BYjLunNpQyeSsX0un8s9sHJ8v2u50JkeIjGrKGe0jF4ibAxf9nmNoubsFvsn5KlV6 +H+yYSo2ax4LJPBhO/vj1a1pHuMZ5y/8sJBesiDFvpMwZAI9hErkjQ0RNZnofw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.03 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8046FB6A7 X-Spam-Score: -3.03 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: bBw2cgcsocPG --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 2021-05-27, Leo Famulari wrote: > I'm not sure exactly how the situation could be improved. Maybe the > installer and the operating-system declarations that it generates could > instead use one of the "longterm" [1] kernel series? > > I'm not totally comfortable steering users to these longterm kernels > series, since they are more buggy and less featureful than newer kernel > series, but at least they do not change very much. > > What do you think? Would it be too complicated to include both the latest LTS kernel and the most recently packaged kernel in the installer, and default to using the same kernel for the installation? Then, if one kernel didn't work for someone, they could try the install with the other kernel without having to download a separate image. Of course, it bloats the installer having a second kernel on it... and maybe the increased complexity to explain which to choose would be too much... live well, vagrant --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCYK/gkgAKCRDcUY/If5cW qoMqAP0dLV8N9DhMU6I7bC/SAKixbGCDkpmfWH1oNglpAq0d3wD/XthLiD5Z98OD SSpnIy+0lAPEGjCGTBlPYBmI88E7nw0= =cMTW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--