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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1656956211; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=4vqzzCN2el1KdEPw6IRAYGaS0hKGnlc89L4PkH0Iy74=; b=I8ReGXRYtdisTpKUKrE0BJXCJ0NzSeOqQ/Dh7+H4VS8BhLEkfL+5qr2jA7xpwz6R3jIVAj aHw6KaXxkH8I0bhh5YrSsm0whsefhCZTUaijZHNCWOhySygxkIZypnmiujal8QzgtBRFa6 uLxx9grSOb/7XwIQJfA+Xxe49mcPnlK6YUZzVcVoYNjmvNHhbH2PcjcqkIavwx52H0FkvJ Z5kMP4bMit+mNVFmYH59j2fVBlFsH2NcJx3yjjBwKY7ft8WC1RYpHD55z4VfZuZQJ9yg/y bm3T2GzV0ehYJYHqcqZM13BgY7ihYPtJl/CXpZj5D4t4XPnGtDAMCJAkE94glQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1656956211; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=VCZqkhgekmizgbTTTiEt+8WARZMJaz3CyGmk/rwSC6AViOREaq9t2BiEB9s2OhnX2BoupZ Qi0EPhPSNpNAKGN0YOrQcEaWnpA1gtMM4eFvi5GDY55P9+NzQdP4k8xhbXXS7dAJGBulwm BC1rqL0CwPCoGTSPhquD0w0tNxukER28I7HI+c40PhezlyfwJEPtahcch5elxCeKiRO3We x7UZ8YN2c1h2npoYk1Umvy5crzoDYl6h6oWH19QG6cJZYDQl8uGK2jLi9mdjA0tmiyBQue DZsMBR7IXpjgINF5ZxBBnJ9OhloJ56CkET3TYm9L16CHyv2jhW5gAUj1hhyE9w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=VH+93gMz; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -10.85 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=VH+93gMz; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D76FD1551A X-Spam-Score: -10.85 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: RxaMcrpohxe3 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hi! > > Leo Famulari skribis: > >> The effort to use the Rust programming language within the Linux kernel >> is progressing and may be realized in the next few months: >> >> https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/899182/6c831b90eaee015e/ >> https://www.memorysafety.org/blog/memory-safety-in-linux-kernel/ >> >> Within Guix, we'll need to adapt our kernel build processes in order to >> support this. >> >> Although I help with updating and configuring the kernel builds, I won't >> be able to participate in the "Rust in the kernel" effort for Guix. > > Understood=E2=80=A6 > >> So, interested volunteers should begin organizing :) > > Yup! > > Now, concretely, how long will it take before key parts of the kernel > are written in Rust? Hopefully a long time, no? Per the article above, > it=E2=80=99s starting small, with Rust usage in well-defined locations. > > This is not to say that we shouldn=E2=80=99t start organizing, but rather= that > we still have a bit of time ahead. > > (During that time, interested readers can also take a stab at improving > support for the Hurd, which relies on that revolutionary technology > called =E2=80=9Caddress spaces=E2=80=9D to ensure Memory Safety=E2=84=A2 = among other things!) > > Ludo=E2=80=99. > "Address spaces"! What's that? Sorry for asking without searching the internet first, but the Hurd designers are so creative that a few understand the concepts and join the community, so there is a little chance (if any) that I'll find any useful information on that. =2D-=20 Akib Azmain Turja This message is signed by me with my GnuPG key. 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