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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0393E49776 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 4.59 X-Spam-Score: 4.59 X-TUID: 34ko1iRfqcs2 Csepp writes: > Robby Zambito writes: > >> Hi Sarthak, >> >>> As of now, it's a bit difficult for beginners to find answers to their problems in the mailing list or in IRC logs as they aren't very >>> easy to navigate compared to forum threads. >> >> I personally think that it would be wiser to improve the documentation >> relating to the mailing lists and IRC logs, rather than fragmenting the >> places that someone should look for answers. Maybe a new / additional >> frontend that is more approachable for new users would also be good. > > Sourcehut has full-time employees working on making these accessible, so > it really boggles my mind why we aren't using that instead of Savannah > and Debbugs. > We could also bridge IRC to Matrix (even though the company behind it > has some people who... let's say like the taste of leather too much). > Pine64 has a great chat setup actually, their channels are bridged to a > whole bunch of services. Not saying we must also bridge with Discord, > but at least the libre options should be considered. > Hey, Very much agreed with Sourcehut as a much better frontend for guix. Plus its AGPL3 licensed all of it afaik. Regarding the forum I dont think any forum would have much traction. I agree that either matrix or xmpp could be considered instead for that purpose. As a more approachable chat mechanism compared to IRC. MSavoritias >> I have never found myself participating in distro-specific forums; I >> have always used them as read-only sources of information. Yet here I am >> participating in the Guix mailing lists :). I bet I am not alone in this >> experience. >> >> Also FWIW, Guix was basically my introduction to participating in >> mailing lists. So I wouldn't say I am biased in my old ways of doing >> things - I just genuinely think it's a good way to handle communication. >> >> Robby > > Guix is also the first project I contributed to in a major way over > mailing lists and my experience is that if you don't keep up to date > with the list, the lackluster search and linking will be a major pain in > the buttocks. It is usable for experts, but is absolutely not > beginner-friendly. > But even experts would benefit from a better workflow.