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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-to: Felix Lechner From: Felix Lechner via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -4.18 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B686115F98 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx13.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.18 X-TUID: Rm7Qva4haWsn Hi Adam, On Sun, Mar 31 2024, Adam Faiz wrote: > Could the Shepherd depend on mcron for the timer functionality? Since > mcron already handles scheduling commands to run at a certain time, > there would be no need to reimplement it again. I don't wish to speak for the Mcron maintainer Dave, who reads this list, or for Ludo', to whom your message was addressed, but the Shepherd's scheduler [1] strikes me as potentially superior as it may avoid this calendaring issue in Mcron. [2] Kind regards Felix [1] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/shepherd.git/tree/modules/shepherd/service/timer.scm?h=devel#n149 [2] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-mcron/2023-12/msg00000.html