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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.06 X-Spam-Score: 0.06 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6789688741 X-TUID: 7VcNGPr7bwIp Hi, On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 at 15:10, Divya Ranjan wrote: > As someone who=3DE2=3D80=3D99s been recently involved in packaging some > software for GNU Guix I=E2=80=99m confused with certain choices, mostly w= ith > the [package]-next category. What should these next packages be? "More > recent" than the non-next package? If so, how much more recent? One > release ahead? There is no rule, to my knowledge. I think the idea is: 1. Update the package when possible. 2. When the update is non-desirable because it leads to a world-rebuild or ecosystem world-rebuild, we provide some -next version. In other words, if it=3DE2=3D80=3D99s not clear for you when the package ne= eds to=3D be under the -next category then it means it does not need :-) thus it=3DE2=3D= 80=3D =3D99s a regular update. More recent means somehow new significant release. A good rule of thumb that I use for what mean =3DE2=3D80=3D9Csignificant=3DE2=3D80=3D9C: a) this= new release=3D fixes a well-known security bug and b) I highly need and I cannot live without one of the feature that the new release provides. > None of the above options seem to satisfy, emacs-next does not follow > the latest master, but it further away than one release from the > stable. So what exactly does emacs-next follow for being updated? About emacs-next specifically, well, the question is addressed to Emacs team, right? Hum, in case they are CC. Cheers, simon