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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619961463; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=OZzM8i0gnAxM/2fil3oLgQuqiVVXLscwqS3AL25EZIo=; b=JXRcGUgrwSMjVIFJDKaTGwBN70aen+u8cOCAEktclO2Hskd0QkJVdKt2OwR13Ie1rDgoxg vcVA6CSOEPcliqp/2irMlOeGRmWwdsriyzOZAyItp+IVBrCYHJ8FoYnWcirk0PH3WpA1cw KE1DVClL5iAGbpuOoFJ/tZyWOTXSpqew0IWApcS6z5TMRiGUaiRsPiS/G24M0aMID9xaJB MFlCAXo3NBMjzXollWp6y1wB1Yfw47NqS150CkSiA4FJkHlRimxUX/vKZSRhikjiQY4WlX fQhQErr2FVZXmFlrPgWgqaCiG5WsXfTrgQWcgUd10DowQgaj554rvsIZBjNMjw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619961463; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ClB4Szx9uaoSDQpwMviA+Pu6z1GVWyKcTgA5vhQ+dgf2bE2ntX4wKbQhvtBa/eumHHz63v jIw6MO+Dbq0QcTDIvdOZtKqd77npUx4kkmQPTO3OPcTZCK4jqA4f25pSt5BF9selajiNnj 0hWcQN0vUZk24G9Fkpk9Y/VUo97RAujAH+yvQszxHztbaOA0jVN82mt6/ma7XQwsOBxkL8 ESd7aakWAp5qaqMOLFGSc1Le7sWERDKvULdFJMyddoJd0xu8jVt8aqUj+p4ZOKeSkKNK1W Nawhr6Q5cDi/Wh4hoJuqb8H8FLq0XQ8ICMH3OSJWLdbv56bC4INQpjC+OjCqNw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dVgkk0HX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.66 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=dVgkk0HX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: EDD862E719 X-Spam-Score: -1.66 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: LGmTHNxIOAFg On Sun, 02 May 2021 at 12:37, zimoun wrote: > Personally, I am still staying away from Guix proper because I felt hurt > by the fact that the whole community did nothing for two months to > prevent such escalations. I apology for this wording. I do not mean that individuals had not tried to privately reach out L=C3=A9o in order to prevent such escalations. I do mean that I have been disappointed by the public messages over the month of March.