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I haven=E2=80=99t yet = taken > the time to look at those other project RFC processes I mentioned, but > we should do that. Important questions are: how do we determine whether > a change is important enough to be RFC-worthy? How do we determine > whether it=E2=80=99s accepted or withdrawn? Perhaps that will unfold bro= ader > questions about structuring and decision-making. > > If anyone feels like giving a hand of this formalization effort, please > feel empowered to do so! I could volunteer for being part of the formalization effort. However, as I said elsewhere, this effort should start be collecting what do we consider as changes requiring formal process? For example, =E2=80=9Cguix shell=E2=80=9D is one instance. The recent =E2= =80=9Cinput label=E2=80=9D is another one. Authentication another. Without such list =E2=80=93 even rou= gh =E2=80=93 it seems hard to think about a process grounded on our past practises for improving them and becoming applicable by our community =E2=80=93 for w= hat my opinion is worth. :-) Cheers, simon