From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp11.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 2Mu9B6Yl02H7SQEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 17:34:46 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp11.migadu.com with LMTPS id oNYpBaYl02GTBgEA9RJhRA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 17:34:46 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA395305EF for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2022 17:34:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:58604 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4QIH-0006GU-3w for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 11:34:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4QH8-0003aw-TM for guix-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 11:33:34 -0500 Received: from [2a00:1450:4864:20::333] (port=43772 helo=mail-wm1-x333.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4QH7-0003OY-5R; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 11:33:34 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id k66-20020a1ca145000000b00345fa984108so161243wme.2; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 08:33:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mZjlNSO+jYB+T7SbUi8kMZI9Wej+Wd8EEnvLO7yLZx8=; b=F3UoXUchfcT6rq0GZyBJdQTfaiIGK1sMq1wtRBL3C9rsGowtq/axA8hmZnv5M0Uaxw 2QnWMx6x1/ngJmYDUJE1t2jeWskoe5udS4cezvm8uBMXuciKBw4KovlQpw875Vr/tEMU uPELh23y06WCxDfi6FUF6K0d3gU7uAPdifUvycg+L9oZFAwZV0JA8k6tA8WOq8wBxu5v mj0ueKnLvb9LcVYqMOFUdZ4+J0wHaOltQJkk6uwdjSO8FlSWX06GpcjHtrb7Y0NsvzYy twcjyQngkjyzmToqKZ95JX0aWKyBIbeWEk4ieTwc2ZpVhQM95Gq0CM1jwwfqo9qeF10q 0R4A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mZjlNSO+jYB+T7SbUi8kMZI9Wej+Wd8EEnvLO7yLZx8=; b=XsuEypv3enoffghO5efnuvUQzk0iXhO1ur4UNWc6Bs9cRnMN9TxT5I8mu0kgAbuTNc /Noy8e1yrotVTu6Uh7Gd6SMX14jaR62mz5OT2gKd8DsrSFYC51l8K5dpflQfjcAzRiYQ Lvgu25+TbAKL1c+womEDnw2ES9vvbEl9v0nO3OzZr2xVHn+94GHEQMeOJdTE/AXY8suY 71v1nWsLgvxEYprzpxPg/PwdQJao7U+5u+H0/xoDF4qZ1SFbfVJLABtAOrsdTlGM41hx oLmsm7JWJZL7lXFKYtU3UhRrIGkZ52zlZM/GHIMCvyQJA8El6Jnjr9Ex+TfGd1SsWypJ Aing== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531rlviK7uCYcDfVgh+uMb6SIooMHDbb/+USPuOHRKyQHZt7jgGS rxnY9rzaDmWEzZ4bUvLLfzBoeLe5Wts= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxDqxwMpwkdQLZyPb1/t68IQu+el/wcv2rkW6PoproOD4+UGbfAsygTX0QdsAhVUJeWILvChg== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c7d0:: with SMTP id z16mr39905475wmk.76.1641227610540; Mon, 03 Jan 2022 08:33:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lili ([2a01:e0a:59b:9120:65d2:2476:f637:db1e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q206sm35347715wme.8.2022.01.03.08.33.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 03 Jan 2022 08:33:30 -0800 (PST) From: zimoun To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Subject: Re: Convention for new =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=9Cguix_style=E2=80=9C=3F?= In-Reply-To: <87y23wj21g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86bl18sscd.fsf@gmail.com> <87y23wj21g.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 17:23:22 +0100 Message-ID: <86r19ovldx.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::333 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::333; envelope-from=zimon.toutoune@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x333.google.com X-Spam_score_int: 6 X-Spam_score: 0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.6 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1641227685; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=mZjlNSO+jYB+T7SbUi8kMZI9Wej+Wd8EEnvLO7yLZx8=; b=KK2+gQjrbD15+2qrw4DBxRKQvpw82EXfym6TghuRdvshD/F8a7dzee/pC3dC6Pe9kc0/Ku 2z8L99bjZ7HrcOwi/90P0Wq7TLxAiw6X+P8R1BbpWGYuQgLYdGNBGYd/k3mQgRlZXl3KXZ 0A+x9IOVbSj9Z4ed3Xhns4m5MwGkEWw83x5PMAf+Lz8NS5i8rW1sXG4aontn0sIhpTA5hq fjK1vfZUkO+TpyYvSndRmkeoaMtHoCL3sVUUp7pYJ4kViGGxTbs5kYShpVFQGIbtEQJWt4 2gqJM7lsLiANE+7su6BJQXis11VxfDpKNAtzocRssFiOpRcexkkdks+ZAml+Zg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1641227685; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=iyySLgk5YH+niq1NeCSfKMUEiOQa3yh8SiMLrtGLYpboVIsy5RiI30/4knZzhbhUKxqyEI x3XjpEFJmOPImiM6TZb3Ql3DcihOKCIhzn3bPPx2Iz+zZevTzkaW35AmkuMEUhCPOO8RfA 51gTM5peLUXB4nPVGKLhamPJZagzgc11HWOVhE/gAWYqMQSgoUIuNoWVe9Yh2B1td8LZvo Tn9M8N2LfgTeCMkASrcNLQGyw34YtVJgalwS72oMe1cU+C6yRp0wG7+QkNgpM+7Iogg53S sOAUFyzar1yuIxJ0NoFhJlqp02IEx1n0MqeD00tTxJ4xfO8ND4U+eIt1dHNdwQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=F3UoXUch; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.29 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=F3UoXUch; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DA395305EF X-Spam-Score: -3.29 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: +FUixuk/mlnT Hi Ludo, On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 at 16:02, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > When doing the first iterations of =E2=80=98guix style=E2=80=99=C2=B9, I = found it more > pleasant to the eye to have small lists on a single line, the prime > example being: > > (native-inputs > (list autoconf automake libtool pkg-config)) > > Diffs of such a list remain readable IMO. I do agree that for longer > lists one item per line is clearer though, which is why the pretty > printer has this #:long-list parameter, currently defaulting to 5. > > There=E2=80=99s an opportunity to discuss style with new =E2=80=98guix st= yle=E2=80=99 changes=C2=B2. > However, care must be taken not to fall into the bikeshedding trap. I > think we must aim for readability and consistency, but also acknowledge > that there=E2=80=99ll always be circumstances where one might choose a sl= ightly > different stylistic variant and that up to a certain level those > variants are entirely fine. In the end =E2=80=98guix style=E2=80=99 is a= helper; human > beings get the last say. Well, I disagree. But yeah, as you said elsewhere 1) the proposal had been done more than 6 months ago so I had time to wake up and raise and 2) let avoid to fall into the Walder=E2=80=99s law; as exposed by the excel= lent food for thought video [1] you pointed [2]. Cheers, simon 1: 2: