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In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:15:44 +0100 Message-ID: <86lffoyhb3.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::436; envelope-from=zimon.toutoune@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x436.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=vCWOt2/3; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: 4PwV1n0i6esA Hi, On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 at 21:55, Aniket Patil wrot= e: > P.S: I don't know whether GUI for Guix exists or not, to my knowledge it > doesn't. If I am mistaken please enlighten me on this topic. For sure, a GUI front-end will be nice. Today, the most GUI-like is provided by the package =E2=80=99emacs-guix=E2=80=99, and as the name indic= ates, it uses=E2=80=A6 Emacs. Well for the worst and the better. :-) Recently, we discussed with Pierre and Mathieu about this. And even if some GTK front-end would be nice to have, from my point of view, the good direction would be a =E2=80=9Cweb-app frontend=E2=80=9D, similarly to git-annex-assistant [1]. This design is more flexible because it could be used locally *and* could also be the front-end of some servers (e.g., build farms). For example, let imagine that one user is running Guix on their own machine and they locally generates a Docker image (guix pack -f docker) via the front-end. Another user who does not run Guix on their own machine (but instead some Apple product), they could go to the front-end served by one shared machine and so click, generates the Docker image and get back one link usable by =E2=80=9Cdocker pull=E2=80=9C or whatever. The same code could run the 2 use cases. Well, command by command, these are sharable between the 2 use cases: describe, search, show, time-machine, weather, part of system and package and pack; at least for a start. 1: Just my opinion if I would be starting a GUI front-end. :-) All the best, simon