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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1615990078; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=vIi6c4KhIlps4GL1P0w38IMzT8gu8kSlmDdL37GF6VI=; b=uh4t3gpYHdArj0hIOcZIRogzuKYlA3pHrpsV00cBs3lzDnjH9Vmavtpb6jGe/ZYhxuyj4J UzmCzMzierpQSsPzMtfYBKz5uC4QUeJymzQEAIO01/NxAN8uc1mgrPF7MHJSOHDPcoGnPo 28aUhazRpKDcb5K+y12YpiA+iDNpTxhqa+JdsuJwzpCoi52DoTJSBJJNDc0mrr68XhWIej Hsbl4n/eXCG+eof+IUW8nHxtWZzRgoa/icita33Yk3rk4SAKwdt8DdHWItQPnCWv66tmat bO8HvmKr70osxdvbgQfH+JoZzpxgz7UjSvqRygZOHZ3Luh6hyS2jnBuHkFMYYw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1615990078; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=TRx9VMgODUJycCg4Em/cu0HYNPorq4CGdPLCv5gJmLUUgvCwznAJNT2OQtVm6uk7jW7N7n W2ZdoeMR71tqG0WEszWe97zHQEoCpAfH7sdL9R+WKySyHi+bRpTWLTJ/87uZ3q3Du4Vp05 t2CL+c0t5QE9fnhqLNL2EaYx5Xn4v4SmnZi9mXKSb5hMl49p1ljqLOi9SOk/+Tu4AQ2H+I HGCIEk7QSWoQswL4abPfL66LvIki3cG7n+IdOnUlCV+C479TgJhZD/LDau/myoOgsITvH9 sWWKYxh64IkJE7PaTwOYv8ODn8dwzQZcslkC5o6MBMj/DRJIA2v/ZrclaWes5Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lwlX7BvO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.10 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=lwlX7BvO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2ACF621935 X-Spam-Score: -2.10 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: sg/CjrjIpxBe Hi, On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 07:24, L=C3=A9o Le Bouter wrot= e: > I think we can handle this without granting us any special powers, I > like it that we don't have roles actually! > > We can discuss, debate, agree to common goals, I don't think we are > going to enter into conflict, we hear each other, we communicate, I > think that's a really good thing in GNU Guix :-D > > Lots of other communities enter into conflict fast and stop > communicating, GNU Guix is not that, there's a spirit of goodwill of > everyone and that's really pleasing to live as a contributor and user. I agree and am aligned with these words. (Without saying there is de facto hats. :-)) The downside is that sometimes things are stalling. Examples: core-updates unmerged since ~10 months, patches that fall in the crack, old bugs never closed, etc. Pick any non fun stuff. :-) Hard topic about collective work in general: is it possible to scale with only implicit hats and no explicit ones? :-) Hat meaning feel in charge and do the job to make it happen. Cheers, simon