From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: myglc2 Subject: Re: The usability of Guix configurations Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:40:45 -0500 Message-ID: <86d14sy2wy.fsf@gmail.com> References: <868tfjw4is.fsf@gmail.com> <87po8u9ylu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45235) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCWDU-0005UP-R6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:40:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eCWDQ-000240-5q for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2017 14:40:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87po8u9ylu.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Tue, 07 Nov 2017 11:23:09 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: Guix-devel On 11/07/2017 at 11:23 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hello, > > myglc2 skribis: > >> My system recently broke when I did an upgrade. I reported what I >> thought was a bug (bug#29072) but it turned out that, because qemu >> package code had been moved, my system configuration had become broken >> ;-( > > It should be noted that you were using a =E2=80=9Cdeveloper setup=E2=80= =9D, specifically > running Guix from a checkout with ./pre-inst-env and all. > > The issue with the stale module wouldn=E2=80=99t happen with =E2=80=9Cgui= x pull=E2=80=9D, which > is the recommended =E2=80=9Cuser setup.=E2=80=9D > > While I agree the situation is not ideal, I think we have to admit that > developers can always shoot themselves in the foot, and that was one way > of doing it. ;-) > > Thoughts? > > Ludo=E2=80=99. I think I misinterpreted this earlier as dismissing the usability points. Now I think you are referring to the bug specifically, and from that point of view I agree. I have closed the bug as notabug. I posted thoughts/questions re use of "developer setup" by users and 'make clean-go' here ... http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2017-11/msg00080.html Best - George