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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: E4EE93CB6C X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.78 X-Spam-Score: -5.78 X-TUID: V2xdXA/VNhsq On 9/3/23 1:36 AM, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> Why are we trying to compete with Sourcehut? What's the end goal? > > I can’t make myself even clearer about this, but I’ll repeat myself > again: we are not. > > “Competition” is a foreign concept to me. Mumi exists only because I > found the Debbugs web interface kinda ugly and alienating. It’s a hack > that obviously outlived its welcome. I have to admit that messages like > this make me regret scratching this itch that gave rise to Mumi in 2016. > (Sourcehut started in 2018.) I think you've already addressed this, but I wanted to plainly state that I appreciate your work on Mumi. Even if we decide to move on, it fulfilled a need for this period of time in Guix's life, and I thank you for it.