From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: myglc2@gmail.com Subject: Re: website: say what Guix is at the very top Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: <867es3cgeq.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87inc0gzoz.fsf@elephly.net> <863732wf9z.fsf@gmail.com> <87efmm70re.fsf@elephly.net> <87r2qm3rfv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2qj1d6o.fsf@elephly.net> <87a7x31gm6.fsf@gnu.org> <86372sdxz0.fsf@gmail.com> <87h8r71dp9.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40277) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efV5g-0001r4-Nq for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:20:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1efV5c-0008Ry-KX for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:20:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87h8r71dp9.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:14:26 +0100") List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, sirgazil On 01/27/2018 at 17:14 Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > Hello, > > myglc2@gmail.com skribis: > >> Before you build these two sites, how about considering a more unified >> approach? IMO this will be easier for users to understand and require >> less work. Using 'GuixE' to refer to everything in '(guix) Top' you >> could say: > > I think changing names to address a problem that is very real, yet not > that terrible, would be a bit overkill. :-) > > Ludo=E2=80=99. You misunderstand. I do not propose changing names. I do propose that you present Guix + GuixSD to the outside world in a unified way. I meant "GuixE" as a "handle" to that idea. Sorry if that was misleading. Here it is again w/o GuixE. Please read this pretending you don't know anything about Guix/GuixSD (can you? ;-) And please consider these questions: Does this give me a quick idea what Guix is? What it does? Why I might want it? What I should download? And let me know where it falls short. PRODUCT DESCRIPTION: The Guix software environment manager creates user environments that are completely and independently specified by users. Guix users are never are stuck needing software that a Sysadmin can't, won't, or hasn't installed. A Guix user can run multiple, differing environments simultaneously and can replicate any environment on any Guix run-time platform. Guix provides system-wide environment management when appropriate to the run-time platform. Creation, modification, and upgrade are atomic and roll-back is instantaneous, so Guix users and sysadmins are never stuck with a broken user environment or system. Guix implements a functional specification of package, user, and system configurations using the Scheme language. Guix complies with the FSF Four Essential Freedoms and Free System Distribution Guidelines and provides easy and immediate access to the exact source being run. By default, Guix uses pre-built package substitutes from the Guix build farm and mirrors but users may build any package, or a complete system, from package developer sources. Guix is available on multiple run-time platforms including bare metal (GuixSD), Virtual Machines (QEMU image), and any GNU/Linux distro (Guix Binary). SALES MESSAGE: Introducing Guix - the first software environment manager that solves the problems of both sysadmins and users of GNU/Linux: - sysadmin problems: - Because I have to modify the system to meet user needs and these are risky, I have to prototype every change on a test system - because system changes takes time, I can't keep up with user software requests and users are unhappy - Users request conflicting packages, so I can't make everyone happy - user problems: - I need software that sysops won't or hasn't provided - sysops changes stuff and my environment breaks - I need software that sysops can't provide because it conflicts with other user requirements