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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=LpmqM6Bo; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1678623998; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=pMDEtKrnbZ8j6Dwvl+CZFDomhseX89Ly0nYGmKMPGHAQ+DfoK2Gi5Mp+TzGbsEim2sSojt 8fXYdd3EPDwMb6JgGz3nEsTcloi5jjhY70LTEXeytEqJUI+Xh7z6sPAoh9grnXsLzVcn5u 5MPaUykd0tQAOzfr7z+Pp6euwCM8SYdN8eBSY9AUM4MIg+DLbvdQmPRpgiB0ITG6KhCu5o DgrYcFn0k4DLO+3kT6BTN6ZULjmSe67ZiW4YfvaAwXKrQ1f0p8ShjPeBBBaNoev2zjvv3P 5ekCh6/ZBWJft1jEIQkjuZmQ3kHsY80M9l5iej+pWcfvESmHQ5//iLJdN0vg4Q== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1678623998; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=JdXitxh3I+URiE2ZwJVakJBMBwTbCHWGq5qU4LBYjXs=; b=YUjD52tyLC8NrifRDWxWA07nBi+nLXGvtyUOy1QsTCDAnRP1lBGUFmZKbg2j2u41WOZrEx gHjsyhMk5cGlI4TD6qnTd8RnMpfXn4QbyRCsA6lDZ3N5pDfW1TY1FCcLe8JjxFd+Cyd071 E03WrHcworpCE0bTxjsOIy6Uiw6WM7ZLRlwxqrSDE0nemy0U9x1ynBoDsscJhkTOBH/E7f wCOGL7Cmf8jxKGyWyLYbnoZzS4DkXyWauM0nxrnISrR+8jPdQdWF7wj+T/PKkyijvx9f0R Z35giSIiaVnEYW+0vQct4bZqqdgsKihgOhFwXVDHIJgEZbPK6RebCEOA0LFSxg== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.94 X-Spam-Score: -4.94 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2D93CED00 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=LpmqM6Bo; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com X-TUID: xrilfDE7BmQf Hi Maxim, On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 at 22:26, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > I'm sorry that you feel that way. I don't think consensus was willfully > broken, and perhaps by studying some actual examples of these > occurrences we can better understand what went wrong and how the new > suggested policy would have helped or could be modified to help avoid > such problems in the future. Well, all is in the public archive. :-) For one recent example, see #61255 [1]: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- We should think about how to improve our processes to avoid such issues in the future. I did raise concerns about this very patch late at night during FOSDEM, 24h after submission, and reaffirmed my viewpoint days later. I understand that delaying a nice patch series like this one is unpleasant, but I think those concerns should have been taken into account. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- 1: https://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/61255#32 >From my point of view, it is useless to rehash specific example by specific example. Because it is not one unique case but several diffuse situations popping here or there. To be honest, I am missing what are the objections when one is asking to double-check some core changes. Anyway, I have expressed my opinion in various places in this thread and now I will not comment further. Cheers, simon