From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jonathan Brielmaier Subject: Guix System video review on YouTube Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 00:32:27 +0200 Message-ID: <855dde2f-a7c7-d6e4-b649-a3bae60f99cb@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40918) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSpp9-0002dp-O3 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:32:32 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSpp8-0003Kn-T9 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:32:31 -0400 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:47123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSpp8-0003CB-9s for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:32:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.11] ([92.117.247.66]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb003 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LcPRO-1ijMS20pr4-00jqZu for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 00:32:28 +0200 Content-Language: en-US List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Guix-devel Hi fellow guix hackers, Guix System got a video review on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKsXecNJ_nE As it's in German and was quite a little bit negative (title: "Guix System distribution - a disaster"), I watched it and noted every issue he stumbled across. Although the reviewer was not really happy with the Guix System distribution, he was quite pleased with the package manager. So he would recommend his viewers to try Guix on a foreign distro, but not our distro. For the issues I could reproduce, I already filed bugs: --- XFCE: web browser -> choose preferred application, no browser preinstalled -> http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/40880 website: http://guix.gnu.org/screenshots/virtual-machine/ screenshot shows os-config.scm people search for it, but can't find it, because its named configuration.scm not os-config.scm -> http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/40882 thunar: Browse Network -> failed to open -> http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/40884 thunar: sftp does not work, as well as in pcmanfm-qt -> http://issues.guix.gnu.org/issue/40885 Some bugs are only reproducible when you run the Guix QEMU image (1.1.0). When you install XFCE via the installer, they don't appear. That's strange. --- thunar: Icons ^ and down/home are missing XFCE: no network-manager installed by default (seems not so important on a QEMU image) He mentioned lots of other stuff, which feels more like enhancements/changes and not like bugs. So here is an (incomplete) list of his findings: --- * There is no /etc/os-release file. I think it was proposed a while ago, but the patch was rejected. * When starting Icecat for the first time, it show 6 top sites, including trisquel.info and gnu.org, but not guix.gnu.org :) * While installing packages via `guix install` you can't scroll in the terminal, you always get reset to the bottom. * For users coming from other init systems it's hard to find the herd services. Maybe aliases for `service` or `systemctl`. -> network-manager-applet: after installing how to start the network manager service? As suggested by the UI of nm-applet ("NetworkManager not running"). * guix show/search does not show if a package is installed. * guix package -I does not show the packaged installed via the config.scm/services, this can be very confusing. How can you show all installed packages? * `guix search ... | less can be confusing at the beginning. * Finding firefox is little difficult as it's named Icecat. Maybe we can create a dummy package which then links to the icecat package. * Guix has multiple plasma/KDE applications but not the KDE/plasma desktop itself. It's not yet packaged. * Multi user package concept not clear (root as different packages then normal user). * XFCE: has no video/music player installed by default. Good night Jonathan