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From: Jonathan Frederickson <jonathan@terracrypt.net>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: “Guix Profiles in Practice”
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 20:34:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <84995292-3551-2323-15d9-6ade421d030f@terracrypt.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ=RwfZMBz1aGG24TtCc22sk6Z2PYNGCr8ccCe5+4Y31PQ6v9A@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/25/19 12:36 PM, Thompson, David wrote
> 'guix environment' is a very composable command, and it's not clear to
> me how I would add the stuff I want onto it and it's even less clear
> if it's a good idea.  Probably not.  So, I wonder if maybe a new
> subcommand, say 'guix develop', could address this common development
> use-case while allowing 'guix environment' to continue being the swiss
> army knife that it is.  Some simple naming conventions could make this
> tool "just work."  Running 'guix develop' would check for a profile
> symlink with some canonical name, for example '.guix-develop-profile'.
> If it exists, it applies the environment variables and spawns a
> subshell.  If it doesn't exist, it looks for a 'develop.scm' file
> (canonical name TBD), builds the profile, symlinks it to
> '.guix-develop-profile', and then does the prior steps.  The tool
> would provide a mechanism to update, etc. and it could even be
> expanded later to spawn services like databases.

I love this idea, though I'd like to expand upon that a bit. There's 
another tool in the Python world that does something similar called 
Pipenv. The gist of it is:

Pipfile: analogous to a Guix manifest
Pipfile.lock: analogous to a Guix manifest + channel spec (this file 
contains precisely specified dependency versions)
~/.local/share/virtualenvs/<venv name>: Generated virtualenvs (analogous 
to a Guix profile, of course)

You work with these as follows:

$ pipenv install
^ creates a virtualenv with packages from Pipfile.lock (if it exists) 
otherwise creates a virtualenv with packages from Pipfile and (by 
default) creates Pipfile.lock
$ pipenv lock
^ resolves dependencies for packages in Pipfile and (re)creates Pipfile.lock
$ pipenv shell
^ spawns a subshell in the project's virtualenv

It occurs to me that you could nicely replicate this behavior in Guix by 
doing much the same thing; have a convenience command that reads a 
manifest with a well-known filename, creates profiles in a well-known 
location, and generates a channel spec (probably the current version of 
Guix the first time it's run). The end result is that a user could clone 
a project with both a manifest and channel spec and end up in the same 
environment by just running 'guix develop'.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-26  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-25 10:24 “Guix Profiles in Practice” Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-25 16:36 ` Thompson, David
2019-10-25 20:44   ` Pjotr Prins
2019-10-26 10:02     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-27  8:56       ` Pjotr Prins
2019-10-27 11:30         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-27 11:43           ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-10-27 20:06           ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-10-27 21:05             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-28 16:20               ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-10-30  8:36     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-26  0:34   ` Jonathan Frederickson [this message]
2019-10-26  1:19     ` Jonathan Frederickson
2019-10-26 10:00   ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-27  3:29     ` Bengt Richter
2019-10-27  8:49       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-27 13:33     ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-10-27 13:53       ` Jelle Licht
2019-11-03 14:24   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-11-03 16:49     ` Jonathan Frederickson
2019-11-04 10:12       ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-04 14:33       ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-11-04 10:10     ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-05 22:18       ` Carlo Zancanaro
2019-11-06  8:32         ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-11-06 17:37           ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-11-07 12:42             ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-10-26 18:32 ` Alex Griffin
2019-10-26 19:38   ` Pierre Neidhardt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-11-02 18:51 Tanguy Le Carrour
2019-11-02 19:21 ` Pierre Neidhardt

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