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In German, we have the word "Betriebsblindheit", which describes the state of being so used to a routine that it's no longer questioned. Particularly here, you're used to raw commit hashes, so you no longer feel the need to add a comment explaining that it corresponds to a given tag, which others (such as myself, your past self and possibly your future self) would need at least until they themselves also turn a blind eye to raw hashes.   I don't think I want to achieve a state of mass raw commit blindness as I fear that would undermine some of the security that git-version currently provides us with. WDYT?