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I've been meaning = to=0A>>> do that, haven't tried yet...=0A>> =0A>> Weirdly....I'm not cert= ain that I want guix on my pinephone. Specifically=0A>> I got my Pinephon= e, because I was tired of google's spyware. AND I wanted=0A>> a life phon= e, which is a phone that is so boring to use, you put it down=0A>> and go= live a life instead. :)=0A>> =0A>> I've actually installed Mobian, remov= ed the user "mobian" from the=0A>> suoders list, and had my mom change th= e root password on my phone.=0A>> So, my phone by design does not have fi= refox or tootle installed...=0A>> =0A>> If I installed guix system, I cou= ld re-install those annoying apps=0A>> that drain my life away. It would = be nice if guix system could=0A>> create a user that is not allowed to in= stall applications, or had=0A>> only a whitelist of applications that he = could install.=0A>> =0A>> That's my two cents. :)=0A> =0A> Well I underst= and. For years I've kept all the social stuff off my=0A> phone to not be = too sucked into it. I use a browser, but in read-only=0A> mode...!=0A=0AA= lso what's read-only mode? A web browser that doesn't support images/vid= eo=20?