Introducting myself

Introducting myself

[Tanguy Le Carrour]

Dear Guix community,

I've been playing with GuixSD for few weeks now. I was looking for
a distribution recommended by the FSF, but was not pleased with Trisquel
or Parabola, so I ended up trying GuixSD. And I have to admit that
I haven't been disappointed! The documentation looks good, the installation
procedure is straight forward… so I decided to take the plunge and to install it
as my main OS on my [Vikings D8][1].

[1]: https://store.vikings.net/ryf-certified-hardware/d8ryf

As much as I was disappointed by `pacman` package manager, I really enjoy
using `guix` and I don't miss `sudo pacman -Sy some-mess` **at all**!!

And, icing on the cake, I read recently that you guys were
interested in the Hurd [3], a project I've been following for years
and even contributed a bit to.

[3]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-04/msg00007.html

The picture is not all bright however, and things started to get complicated
when I tried to customize the system. I've been using Python as my main language
for more than 10 years and Guile is… something that I still have to get used to!
^_^'

As you might expect, I have a ton of questions! I might even have found
one bug or two that I'll post on the mailing list! And in a while, I hope,
I'll be able to contribute some package definitions. But before I do, I just
wanted to tell you that GuixSD really looks like a great project and that
you guys have done a great job! I hope to be able to play a role in the
future of Guix!

Best regards

-- 
Tanguy

Re: Introducting myself

[Pierre Neidhardt]

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Welcome!

> [3]: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-04/msg00007.html

Nice hardware, thanks for sharing!

> The picture is not all bright however, and things started to get complicated
> when I tried to customize the system. I've been using Python as my main language
> for more than 10 years and Guile is… something that I still have to get used to!
> ^_^'

Guile, Scheme and Lisp-languages in general can be quite a shock at
first indeed.  But once you've tamed the psychological bias, the reward
is really worth it I believe: Guile is a very powerful and expressive
language which empowers you in ways that very few languages out there can.

Best of luck,
Cheers!

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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Re: Introducting myself

[Tanguy Le Carrour]

Le 04/13, Pierre Neidhardt a écrit :
> Welcome!

Thanks!


> > The picture is not all bright however, and things started to get complicated
> > when I tried to customize the system. I've been using Python as my main language
> > for more than 10 years and Guile is… something that I still have to get used to!
> > ^_^'
> 
> Guile, Scheme and Lisp-languages in general can be quite a shock at
> first indeed.  But once you've tamed the psychological bias, the reward
> is really worth it I believe: Guile is a very powerful and expressive
> language which empowers you in ways that very few languages out there can.

Can't wait to see that! :-)

Oh, btw, thanks for the very good [A packaging tutorial for Guix][1].
The manual is quite nice, but contains a **lot** of information, so the
one-page article is really a must read!

[1] https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/blog/2018/a-packaging-tutorial-for-guix/

Regards

-- 
Tanguy

Re: Introducting myself

[Chris Marusich]

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Hi Tanguy,

Welcome!  It's great to hear about your experience so far with Guix
System (we've recently renamed GuixSD to Guix System).  The more people
who use it, share it, and contribute to it, the better it will become!

See you around,

-- 
Chris

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Re: Introducting myself

[Tanguy Le Carrour]

Le 04/16, Chris Marusich a écrit :
> Welcome!

Thanks!


> It's great to hear about your experience so far with Guix System

I haven't done much so far! But after a week, it's still my main OS at
home, and that's already a good thing!

I'm planning to play a bit with the OS config system, for instance to
set the default shell for my user (I've tried, but failed… but this will
be in a email of its own), and I'll try to package my favourite tools that
are currently missing: ack, fd, fzf, udiskie, poetry, pyenv…

The last 2 might lead me to ask some stupid questions like "can Guix
really replace language specific package managers?" as suggested in
Pierre's article "Guix: A most advanced operating system" [1].

[1]: https://ambrevar.xyz/guix-advance/index.html#org726716f


> (we've recently renamed GuixSD to Guix System).

I take note of this! :-)
Is someone in charge of updating Wikipedia? Some pages [2][3] are still
mentioning the old name.

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Guix#Guix_System_Distribution
[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guix_System_Distribution

Regards

-- 
Tanguy

Re: Introducting myself

[Pierre Neidhardt]

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Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@bioneland.org> writes:

> I'm planning to play a bit with the OS config system, for instance to
> set the default shell for my user (I've tried, but failed… but this will
> be in a email of its own), and I'll try to package my favourite tools that
> are currently missing: ack, fd, fzf, udiskie, poetry, pyenv…

Suggested alternatives:

- ack -> the-silver-searcher (ag)
- fzf -> Emacs with Ivy or Helm
- udiskie -> See discussion here:
  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-03/msg00331.html.
  At some point, we could supersede both udiskie or home-baked scripts
  with Guix/Shepherd user services.

Cheers!

-- 
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/

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Re: Introducing myself

[Tanguy Le Carrour]

(I've just realised that there was a typo in the subject… shame on me!
… fixed… unfortunately the Internet never forgets!!)


Le 04/17, Pierre Neidhardt a écrit :
> Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@bioneland.org> writes:
> > I'll try to package my favourite tools that
> > are currently missing: ack, fd, fzf, udiskie, poetry, pyenv…
> 
> Suggested alternatives:
> 
> - ack -> the-silver-searcher (ag)

Thanks! I came across this one some time ago. This might be the
perfect time to evaluate/adopt it!


> - fzf -> Emacs with Ivy or Helm

arg… this is the much feared moment when I have to confess that I'm…
a faithful Vim user! ^_^'


> - udiskie -> See discussion here:
>   https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-03/msg00331.html.
>   At some point, we could supersede both udiskie or home-baked scripts
>   with Guix/Shepherd user services.

I'm really happy with my Bspwm [1] setup, even if it comes with absolutely no
removable media management! I used to use `udiskctl`, but I have to
admit that one quickly gets attached to `udiskie`.

[1]: https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm


I guess the real struggle will be replacing dependency management
in my Python projects. But that's a totally different topic!

Regards

-- 
Tanguy

Re: Introducing myself

[John Soo]

Hi Tanguy,

I just realized you said you wanted an fzf replacement. I recommend fzy. It’s not quite as full featured as fzf but it gets the job done. 

- John

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@bioneland.org> wrote:
> 
> (I've just realised that there was a typo in the subject… shame on me!
> … fixed… unfortunately the Internet never forgets!!)
> 
> 
> Le 04/17, Pierre Neidhardt a écrit :
>> Tanguy Le Carrour <tanguy@bioneland.org> writes:
>>> I'll try to package my favourite tools that
>>> are currently missing: ack, fd, fzf, udiskie, poetry, pyenv…
>> 
>> Suggested alternatives:
>> 
>> - ack -> the-silver-searcher (ag)
> 
> Thanks! I came across this one some time ago. This might be the
> perfect time to evaluate/adopt it!
> 
> 
>> - fzf -> Emacs with Ivy or Helm
> 
> arg… this is the much feared moment when I have to confess that I'm…
> a faithful Vim user! ^_^'
> 
> 
>> - udiskie -> See discussion here:
>>  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-guix/2018-03/msg00331.html.
>>  At some point, we could supersede both udiskie or home-baked scripts
>>  with Guix/Shepherd user services.
> 
> I'm really happy with my Bspwm [1] setup, even if it comes with absolutely no
> removable media management! I used to use `udiskctl`, but I have to
> admit that one quickly gets attached to `udiskie`.
> 
> [1]: https://github.com/baskerville/bspwm
> 
> 
> I guess the real struggle will be replacing dependency management
> in my Python projects. But that's a totally different topic!
> 
> Regards
> 
> -- 
> Tanguy
> 

Re: Introducing myself

[Tanguy Le Carrour]

Le 04/18, John Soo a écrit :
> I just realized you said you wanted an fzf replacement. I recommend fzy. It’s not quite as full featured as fzf but it gets the job done. 

Thanks for the link! So many tools out there…
But, actually, what I said was "I want to package fzf for Guix". :-)

Fzf has a nice (colorful) UI and integration in Fish [1] is quite nice.
But I guess fzy will do for the time being!

[1]: https://github.com/jethrokuan/fzf


Regards

-- 
Tanguy

Introducing myself

[Jakob L. Kreuze]

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Hello, guix-devel!

My name is Jakob L. Kreuze, and I was accepted into Google's Summer of
Code program this year to work on "guix deploy," the deployment
automation tool for GuixSD that's been discussed in [1] and [2]. I just
wanted to briefly introduce myself to the list, as you'll likely be
seeing postings from me about "guix deploy" on a regular basis.

Officially, my work doesn't start until the 27th of this month; the next
few days will be spent ensuring that I have a working development
environment and familiarizing myself with both the code and the
development practices of Guix.

I look forward to working with all of you.

Jakob

[1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00145.html
[2]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-03/msg00114.html

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Re: Introducing myself

[Laura Lazzati]

Hi Jakob!

I didn't want to be the first one, but welcome and congratulations :)

I am a former Outreachy intern, and my experience with Guix folks was great,.
I'm sure you will learn and enjoy a lot your internship.

Regards :)
Laura

Re: Introducing myself

[Tobias Geerinckx-Rice]

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Jakob,

Welcome aboard!  I like both parts of your e-mail address already.

Jakob L. Kreuze wrote:
> My name is Jakob L. Kreuze, and I was accepted into Google's 
> Summer of
> Code program this year to work on "guix deploy," the deployment
> automation tool for GuixSD that's been discussed in [1] and [2].

That's rad.

Kind regards,

T G-R

> [1]: 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00145.html
> [2]: 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-03/msg00114.html


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Re: Introducing myself

[Timothy Sample]

Hi Jakob,

Welcome!

"Jakob L. Kreuze" <zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org> writes:

> Hello, guix-devel!
>
> My name is Jakob L. Kreuze, and I was accepted into Google's Summer of
> Code program this year to work on "guix deploy," the deployment
> automation tool for GuixSD that's been discussed in [1] and [2]. I just
> wanted to briefly introduce myself to the list, as you'll likely be
> seeing postings from me about "guix deploy" on a regular basis.

Woohoo!  I’m looking forward to it.

> Officially, my work doesn't start until the 27th of this month; the next
> few days will be spent ensuring that I have a working development
> environment and familiarizing myself with both the code and the
> development practices of Guix.
>
> I look forward to working with all of you.

I hope you have loads of fun working on Guix.


-- Tim

Re: Introducing myself

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Jakob,

"Jakob L. Kreuze" <zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org> skribis:

> My name is Jakob L. Kreuze, and I was accepted into Google's Summer of
> Code program this year to work on "guix deploy," the deployment
> automation tool for GuixSD that's been discussed in [1] and [2]. I just
> wanted to briefly introduce myself to the list, as you'll likely be
> seeing postings from me about "guix deploy" on a regular basis.

This is great news, welcome!

Chris Webber and Dave Thompson will be your mentors, and I’m sure #guix
and guix-devel will be your home.  :-)

This is an exciting project.  Looking forward to working with you!

Ludo’.

Re: Introducing myself

[Gábor Boskovits]

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Hello Jakob,

Welcome!

It is so nice to see this project on the move.

I look forward to working with all of you.
>
>
I am also looking forward to working with you.
Currently I am not mentoring, but sometimes I
help out a little here and there to get the administration
run smoothly.

There is already some real interest in this showing up on IRC
by the way :)

Happy hacking!

Jakob
>
> [1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00145.html
> [2]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-03/msg00114.html
>
Best regards,
g_bor

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Re: Introducing myself

[Christopher Lemmer Webber]

Jakob L. Kreuze writes:

> Hello, guix-devel!
>
> My name is Jakob L. Kreuze, and I was accepted into Google's Summer of
> Code program this year to work on "guix deploy," the deployment
> automation tool for GuixSD that's been discussed in [1] and [2]. I just
> wanted to briefly introduce myself to the list, as you'll likely be
> seeing postings from me about "guix deploy" on a regular basis.
>
> Officially, my work doesn't start until the 27th of this month; the next
> few days will be spent ensuring that I have a working development
> environment and familiarizing myself with both the code and the
> development practices of Guix.
>
> I look forward to working with all of you.
>
> Jakob
>
> [1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00145.html
> [2]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-03/msg00114.html

Hi Jakob!  Fancy seeing you here ;)

As said in person today, the vision of "guix deploy" is what originally
got me interested in Guix.  I'm so thrilled you're going to be working
this summer on making that a reality.

Welcome aboard!
 - cwebb