From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id kOZpH0KIr15QYAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 03:13:06 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id eHJrIkyIr14tLgAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 03:13:16 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [IPv6:2001:470:142::17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7161F9438BD for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 03:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:40182 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRXf-0005zf-Mo for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:13:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37988) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRXU-0005wJ-3y for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:13:04 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([2a00:5884:8208::1]:38066) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVRXS-0008FX-3l for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 May 2020 23:13:03 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 9cc05a95; Mon, 4 May 2020 03:12:54 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:to:from:message-id; s=dkim; bh=v44ns6buiomBYBlOyf3P/gQHnPkZaCaeMW3jPsbEldw=; b=Dt/wOYKZ1zTG ExvUTeQ4sWkLrbR4CUZc831UxKZs4IF68ysMxgpPX7A+ym77z9uoeHQ1Nj5Kd3y/ w/QNf9Y65aoH/cpikrbH70SmTs4qkw+mS66gQrK1F8bqVH7LMf2VY6nO7kW/FRVd 6l1VSUX+2ZIzbo9g6vGY2QDTbQmLteOCqO9dS5f2EFNKe20BnQJAUr9HwkP2rrro oh47u8WACBuxjAHL3zYSaDUnd3bvDu0QGTThgG1AplFTfTGFB+v8RGzcsRz0qe7X t0FfqmH9+tl4VzKOPb3nNhsBK1PmPzDJ7qzrMHJHCzSTOw/ZcbkojkLM9/eyEfil J+PY0dx8sA== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 356a7d7d (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Mon, 4 May 2020 03:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 23:12:39 -0400 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <9c7d89ad-2bf1-ad37-b513-ef0c57c22220@gmail.com> References: <9c7d89ad-2bf1-ad37-b513-ef0c57c22220@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: OpenJFX 14, gradle To: guix-devel@gnu.org,Michael Zucchi From: Julien Lepiller Message-ID: <6BD628BA-151C-4F01-871E-937C443A512A@lepiller.eu> Received-SPF: none client-ip=2a00:5884:8208::1; envelope-from=julien@lepiller.eu; helo=lepiller.eu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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